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Please decommsion the big maps.
« on: June 22, 2016, 07:31:06 PM »
Most of last week and 1rst half of the week we had about 20-25 players each at prime time Euro TZ.
The big maps don't do anything good for the game with these numbers.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2016, 08:55:58 PM »
Most of last week and 1rst half of the week we had about 20-25 players each at prime time Euro TZ.
The big maps don't do anything good for the game with these numbers.


I'd have to disagree........big maps are good fun especially for big bomber missions. 20 -25 players....means it's the middle of the night for most players....who for the most part do not have a problem with the "Big Maps" they even show up in Early and Mid War....and those maps don't stay up a full week....

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 02:18:20 AM »
It's afternoon for the US player base.

Players that not enjoy bomber action probably just log off after some too low-intensive fighting in tank-island.

« Last Edit: June 23, 2016, 02:29:53 AM by save »
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 06:10:09 AM »
who doesn't love a good bomber run?!!!

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 06:28:59 AM »

I'd have to disagree........big maps are good fun especially for big bomber missions. 20 -25 players....means it's the middle of the night for most players....who for the most part do not have a problem with the "Big Maps" they even show up in Early and Mid War....and those maps don't stay up a full week....

A few personal thoughts on that matter:

1. There were no big maps in EW from 2006 until my leave in nov 15. Can't imagine they have reintroduced them.
2. Maps always rotated faster in EW & MW because of the even lower and massively lopsided player count. 7-0 players can 'win' a map in short time. (just to give a perspective, in tour 187 there were less than 2(!) kills made for every captured base in EW, while about 100 in LW)
3. Big bomber missions ? What big bomber missions? I had wished there were still any left in my last year of AH, but after the dispersal of the central strats and the rapidly sinking player numbers, I didn't actually encounter them anymore. None of the very few raids (talking about three or four over a year) I saw was actually getting past the immediate frontlines.
4. The large maps were introduced at a time when the population was about twice as large and still growing. And not declining constantly.
5. I made the final decision to stop my subscription when the AH community apparently voted for keeping the large maps.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 07:31:25 AM »
I'd like to see smaller maps personally. The action needs to be compact if you want players to stick around. I can promise you that no one enjoys climbing to 35k to shoot down a set of B24s. People want to open the game. See an area with 15-20 players fighting each other, up and and join the fight. If you have to search the map for a fight, it's not going to work, if you have to up for 1 tiny dar bar and can't even find he guy, it's not going to work. If new players cannot find the action, they will not stick around. If there isn't and area that funnels the action during the off hours, players will leave because they simply cannot find action or are willing to climb to 30k for b24s that are insanely difficult to catch and shoot that high.

These are logical conclusions that need to be addressed.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 08:40:42 AM »
I can promise you that no one enjoys climbing to 35k to shoot down a set of B24s.

Oh, that's not true at all  :t (even when ignoring the fact B-24s can't fly that high ;))
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2016, 08:59:52 AM »
I can promise you that no one enjoys climbing to 35k to shoot down a set of B24s. People want to open the game. 

These are logical conclusions that need to be addressed.

Your "logical conclusions", based on "nobody wants to fly to 35K", may not be accurate.  I assure you sir, I do enjoy the challenge that you eschew.  It takes time, it takes a different skill set, and the satisfaction I get from making that kill, to me, is much higher than one fight on the deck after the other that requires little to no patience.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2016, 10:01:23 AM »
Lord knows I enjoy it too, Zoney and Lusche, but you've got to admit there's very, very few of us.  I bet there's no more than 50 people (and that's probably high) in the game that habitually go to 25k+ in the MA.  Lusche probably has gleaned those numbers based on average sortie time and number of kills over phase of the moon, or somesuch.  ;)

One format that gives what Dmon's describing is a round-based format like WT.  I hate that kind of limited gameplay but that's what's popular.  The vast majority of people want their instant action in bite sized pieces.

The game's greatest strength is you are given an area to operate in and can do whatever the game allows you to do in that area.  Its greatest weakness is your opponents have that same freedom.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2016, 10:02:05 AM »
No one seems to have any trouble climbing up to get me no matter HOW high I fly!  :x

And I like the big maps just fine.
Your incessant whining just adds entertainment value to my gaming experience :cool:

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2016, 10:05:06 AM »
Oh c'mon... what would the Steamrollers have to do? :bolt:
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2016, 10:08:29 AM »
Sigh, might as well play off line if you want to spend 25 minutes catching a B24/17 at 25k only to get killed by laser beam easy mode gunners that don't die after you put a good 35 -60 20mm cannons up their arse.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2016, 10:15:06 AM »
Sigh, might as well play off line if you want to spend 25 minutes catching a B24/17 at 25k only to get killed by laser beam easy mode gunners that don't die after you put a good 35 -60 20mm cannons up their arse.

You should fly some more buffs to see how 'easy mode' gunnery is against an opponent not going for the dumb '6 o clock' attack trying to put "20mm cannons up their arse.:)
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016, 10:32:50 AM »
No one seems to have any trouble climbing up to get me no matter HOW high I fly!  :x

And I like the big maps just fine.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 10:32:59 AM »
I flew buffs the first month of this year because I didn't have a JS. Flew at 15k bombed base after base took a nap on the way home. So exciting.
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