loss of members

[Slade]

Just keep ample red guys to shoot down and I'm playing this game for life.  It really is that simple for me.

HiTech have modeled these planes incredibly.  As a software developer myself I find the quality of the product superb.

Thanks 

[Triton28]

Please post the website of your game so that we may try it out. With such obvious knowledge of the gaming industry you must be on the forefront of game design and marketing. I can't wait to check it out.

lol...  What's obvious is you want to disagree with me but can't really figure out how to type it out.

[Hungry]

I like the sly "Hey Dale, this part over here is broken.   Drop what you're doing there real quick and fix it, while dragging out the release just a little bit longer and potentially lose even more players."

Some of these posts to Dale should be a wake up call.   Instead, most will shift the spotlight to something else rather than to try and be part of the solution.

You sir are 100% wrong, please re read what I said,

Some of these long drawn out peeing contests could be resolved before they ever get to this point by a simple interaction from your staff.  Too many times the players are left to pure conjecture and anecdotal information.  See the Control a Destroyer thread an example where two words from someone on your staff could have changed / ended / clarified the whole conversation before it got to the point it did.

Only as an example, sorry for the confusion, by that I mean you had players chewing on each other over a point perhaps you or your staff were the only ones qualified to answer, player discord

Good now that wasn't so hard was it

[puller]

I basically spent the night fighting Anti-Horde.  They got me more than I got them, but it's not about winning (despite what so, so many people on this forum mistakenly think) - it's about being challenged and finding/fighting your friends.  I like those guys - they fight.

 

We had good fights all evening...

[hitech]

You sir are 100% wrong, please re read what I said,

Some of these long drawn out peeing contests could be resolved before they ever get to this point by a simple interaction from your staff.  Too many times the players are left to pure conjecture and anecdotal information.  See the Control a Destroyer thread an example where two words from someone on your staff could have changed / ended / clarified the whole conversation before it got to the point it did.

Only as an example, sorry for the confusion, by that I mean you had players chewing on each other over a point perhaps you or your staff were the only ones qualified to answer, player discord

Good now that wasn't so hard was it

Hungry please read my previous post to you again, you are proving my point, a response from me just cause you to start arguing/ trying to convince me to act differently.  I gave you an answer to you request of responding to posts. But now your arguing with me vs other players.

So the basic answer to your request is NO,I will not typically reply to wishes like the destroyer thread. My responding to a thread like that would not change peoples minds. The argument would continue, they would also be also telling me how I don't understand there idea. Tell I am not seeing things clearly. ....

HiTech

[Hungry]

Hungry please read my previous post to you again, you are proving my point, a response from me just cause you to start arguing/ trying to convince me to act differently.  I gave you an answer to you request of responding to posts. But now your arguing with me vs other players.

So the basic answer to your request is NO,I will not typically reply to wishes like the destroyer thread. My responding to a thread like that would not change peoples minds. The argument would continue, they would also be also telling me how I don't understand there idea. Tell I am not seeing things clearly. ....

HiTech

Sorry the second half of this response was much clearer than the previous, I only meant that I am not trying to distract you to work on something else.

[Masherbrum]

You sir are 100% wrong, please re read what I said,

Some of these long drawn out peeing contests could be resolved before they ever get to this point by a simple interaction from your staff.  Too many times the players are left to pure conjecture and anecdotal information.  See the Control a Destroyer thread an example where two words from someone on your staff could have changed / ended / clarified the whole conversation before it got to the point it did.

Only as an example, sorry for the confusion, by that I mean you had players chewing on each other over a point perhaps you or your staff were the only ones qualified to answer, player discord

Good now that wasn't so hard was it

My comprehension skills are just fine.   But thank you for your concern.

[The Fugitive]

Hungry please read my previous post to you again, you are proving my point, a response from me just cause you to start arguing/ trying to convince me to act differently.  I gave you an answer to you request of responding to posts. But now your arguing with me vs other players.

So the basic answer to your request is NO,I will not typically reply to wishes like the destroyer thread. My responding to a thread like that would not change peoples minds. The argument would continue, they would also be also telling me how I don't understand there idea. Tell I am not seeing things clearly. ....

HiTech

Personally,  using the "control a destroyer " thread as an example,  I would like to see a clear answer like "We at HTC have, at this time, no plans to change how any of the naval  operations work in the game."

It gives a clear answer. It shows HTC is aware and does respond to ideas. Will it shut every one up? No, but many will bookmark that responce and use it as an answer when and if the question pops up.

I does show good will, whIch never comes easy but is worth much.

[hitech]

Personally,  using the "control a destroyer " thread as an example,  I would like to see a clear answer like "We at HTC have, at this time, no plans to change how any of the naval  operations work in the game."

It gives a clear answer. It shows HTC is aware and does respond to ideas. Will it shut every one up? No, but many will bookmark that responce and use it as an answer when and if the question pops up.

I does show good will, whIch never comes easy but is worth much.

you are proving my point, a response from me just cause you to start arguing/ trying to convince me to act differently

HiTech

[Hungry]

HiTech

Last one and I will drop the entire subject,

Isn't the spirit of the Wish List in its entirety an attempt to get you to act differently?

[LCADolby]

I think Vudak expressed this best from a long-term player's perspective: it's the plateaus which cause disillusionment. At the same same time there's an awful lot of vets who still enjoy playing or even pop back from time to time.



Regarding the attention to which group you are more concerned with. Clearly new players are vital and needed for the continuation of AH and of course we all recognize and want that. I propose however you ought not underestimate the importance of the second group: the long-term players, because in addition to having helped support your business for an extensive amount of time they also act as ambasaors for the game. Not polite, welcoming, accomodating ambasadors but as beacons of what is capable when you push these excellently flight-modelled simulated aeroplanes to and beyond their limits and the limits of the accepted convention of ACM.

Sure they only pay one subscription per month but they might engage (or contribute to the engagement of) a dozen subscribers who aren't as skilled but aspiring to be so. Speaking for myself it was certainly this minority that kept my interest engaged because I wanted to get as good as them and they showed it was possible. They aren't proportional to one subscription's worth of business perhaps as would outwardly appear.

Regarding criticism, well I hesistate to say this and perhaps it's informative that I feel that way but you do seem rather reactive to criticism. I know that your handling of some of the members of that facton over the 12-hour rule for instance was considered unreasonable, confrontational, unsympathetic and draconian. I know for a fact that the way that incident was handled drove several top sticks away from the game when you could have equally said: 'okay, players with a subscription longer than 2 years can swap countries every hour', say. A small and trivial concession on HTC's part. Instead people were suspended or PNGed from the forum for essentially disagreeing with you and especially disagreeing with you in a certain way.

The point is regarding criticism / suggestions the danger is that one becomes convinced that they've heard it all before and are right. In the education system I am involved with receiving critical feedback is a required stage and designed to prevent this. You might not be aware or unable to integrate how players experience this or that. Sure you know your business well, one can hardly have survived for so long otherwise (I also love the sink analogy. Perfect), however the community of players, especially the long-term level-headed ones that have contributed quite a lot do have important things to say or suggest from time to time. Taking advantage of that and listening where appropriate would allow you to have your cake and eat it, so to speak.

I like Cake 
HTC lets us have cake! 

In all seriousness, well thought out and well put.

[Wiley]

Last one and I will drop the entire subject,

Isn't the spirit of the Wish List in its entirety an attempt to get you to act differently?

Respectfully, Hungry, it's more like a suggestion box than a "post your wish and open a direct dialog with Hitech about it" forum.

They monitor the wishlist pretty closely.  If they like an idea and it's feasible, they implement it.  If not, they don't.  What people on either side of whatever discussion arises in there have to say is nearly irrelevant unless it improves the original idea.  A player saying "that won't work" doesn't mean a thing if HT thinks it will.  Similarly, a player gainsaying for an idea isn't going to make much difference if HT doesn't like it.

It's about that simple.

Wiley.

[Paladin3]

Paladin, you were more rude than Dale was.   Even I knew what his response would be.  If he ships it out now to appease the masses, some of you will piss and moan for months on; "Why was this rushed?"  Putting him against the firing squad.    But the majority of his player base, understand what he is doing and needs to do to get this right.   

I do not see it. I was shocked. Brutally shocked to see that kind of behavior from the owner of a company we pay money to. Was the post wrong? In error I mean? I have no idea, but I'll take HT's word that it is since he took a moment to explain things. I still feel that the tone was completely wrong and that the owner of a company should not stoop to name calling in a forum. It shows bad form to those thinking of coming into AH, and it sours some of those who don't like to be on the end of such behavior.

No one should be disrespected, but it is harder when it is the one that is supposed to remain neutral so that they can moderate discussion right?

So I disagree with you sir. My comment was a WTH moment. I did not call anyone names. I can disagree without doing so, and explain my position and I believe I have. I also am not the owner / representative here. Should I be held to a lesser standard? No, as I said in my post to HT. I will aspire to do better. I apologize to you HT if you took offense to my post, if that was not clear before. It was really a finger version of a verbal woah.

[Masherbrum]

I do not see it. I was shocked. Brutally shocked to see that kind of behavior from the owner of a company we pay money to. Was the post wrong? In error I mean? I have no idea, but I'll take HT's word that it is since he took a moment to explain things. I still feel that the tone was completely wrong and that the owner of a company should not stoop to name calling in a forum. It shows bad form to those thinking of coming into AH, and it sours some of those who don't like to be on the end of such behavior.

No one should be disrespected, but it is harder when it is the one that is supposed to remain neutral so that they can moderate discussion right?

So I disagree with you sir. My comment was a WTH moment. I did not call anyone names. I can disagree without doing so, and explain my position and I believe I have. I also am not the owner / representative here. Should I be held to a lesser standard? No, as I said in my post to HT. I will aspire to do better. I apologize to you HT if you took offense to my post, if that was not clear before. It was really a finger version of a verbal woah.

Changeup was PNG'd,  so this discussion is moot.

[TheBug]

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