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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2016, 06:09:43 PM »
I'm with ya Red.  Problem is I don't see nearly as many folks interested in the immersive part scenarios can offer.  Obviously that's a huge part for me, but it seems like folks prefer to just fly the event now.  I've always seen scenarios as a time to fly with a new mix of folks in a scenario squad.  More often than not the same guys want to fly with their MA squad buddies.  The identity in the scenario is the MA squad not getting invested in the history of the WW2 group they are representing.  I'd love to figure out a way to get that back

Dan,

For that short period of time. It is the world we create that gets folks immersed. The HQ threads, group threads, the stories, the orders, the awards, AARs with pictures, and the aircraft profiles  :aok it all just makes the event for me. It would be akin actually deploying an entire Air Force to the field. The Luftwaffe side of BoB 2013 was the best I've seen so far and we won to boot, that was exciting.  :D Then there would be Red Storm Krupp Steel on the Luftwaffe side, miserable loss  :cry. Last but not least would be DSG II on the USAAF side, not sure again how we lost that one.  :headscratch: Great immersion in all of them. I'd like to think it brought the teams closer together.

But I tell yah... I probably enjoy creating the environments way more than people appreciate them being created. But the simple truth is, it's for me and those that would dare to enjoy it. Whether they attempt to connect with history or not, I know that I will. Researching the history and sharing it in pictures and stories and technical data. That is part about scenario I love the most. Folks that just want to fly and fight, that's just fine.  :azn:

But if I ever CO another scenario, you can guarantee, that the halls will be decked.

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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #91 on: July 18, 2016, 06:23:07 PM »
I'm with ya Red.  Problem is I don't see nearly as many folks interested in the immersive part scenarios can offer.  Obviously that's a huge part for me, but it seems like folks prefer to just fly the event now.  I've always seen scenarios as a time to fly with a new mix of folks in a scenario squad.  More often than not the same guys want to fly with their MA squad buddies.  The identity in the scenario is the MA squad not getting invested in the history of the WW2 group they are representing.  I'd love to figure out a way to get that back
Just to get that immersion back, I might fly allies with you Dan. Always talked about flying with ya, and here's my chance  :aok
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2016, 06:57:29 PM »
One 12-hour format won this voting.  Traditional 4-frame wasn't too far behind, though.

Since this one is 12-hour, for the Scenario after this one, we will do a 4-frame.

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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2016, 07:00:39 PM »
Dan,

For that short period of time. It is the world we create that gets folks immersed. The HQ threads, group threads, the stories, the orders, the awards, AARs with pictures, and the aircraft profiles  :aok it all just makes the event for me. It would be akin actually deploying an entire Air Force to the field. The Luftwaffe side of BoB 2013 was the best I've seen so far and we won to boot, that was exciting.  :D Then there would be Red Storm Krupp Steel on the Luftwaffe side, miserable loss  :cry. Last but not least would be DSG II on the USAAF side, not sure again how we lost that one.  :headscratch: Great immersion in all of them. I'd like to think it brought the teams closer together.

But I tell yah... I probably enjoy creating the environments way more than people appreciate them being created. But the simple truth is, it's for me and those that would dare to enjoy it. Whether they attempt to connect with history or not, I know that I will. Researching the history and sharing it in pictures and stories and technical data. That is part about scenario I love the most. Folks that just want to fly and fight, that's just fine.  :azn:

But if I ever CO another scenario, you can guarantee, that the halls will be decked.

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I'd be lying if I said DGS II wasn't my favorite for that reason, but obviously I poured everything I had into that one.  And no doubt when the opportunity arises I'll keep doing my bit👍
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2016, 07:24:08 PM »
One 12-hour format won this voting.  Traditional 4-frame wasn't too far behind, though.

Since this one is 12-hour, for the Scenario after this one, we will do a 4-frame.

Just not in JUNE!

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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #95 on: July 18, 2016, 07:45:17 PM »
Just to get that immersion back, I might fly allies with you Dan. Always talked about flying with ya, and here's my chance  :aok

"B",

You're kinda wishy washy aren't yah?  :headscratch:
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #96 on: July 18, 2016, 07:46:50 PM »
"B",

You're kinda wishy washy aren't yah?  :headscratch:
I know I know! It's a difficult choice. My favorite plane, or my allied friends who get the immersion rolling. Tis a difficult choice.
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2016, 08:04:27 AM »
One 12-hour format won this voting.  Traditional 4-frame wasn't too far behind, though.

Since this one is 12-hour, for the Scenario after this one, we will do a 4-frame.

cant argue with this mans sound logic and reason.  Will be interesting to see how the 12 hour breakdown will work in N.Africa.  Some sort of el alamein with a gv capture target? 
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2016, 08:25:42 AM »
So the voting was open for only 1 week and you get 39 people to vote. This is what you are going to base the next scenario on?

Seems like you guys wanted a certain format and the other option was getting too close for comfort.

Well good luck.
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2016, 08:43:59 AM »
No one wanted to do a 12 hour Battle of Britain with me :(

Instead they will do a 12 hour Battle in North Africa  :bolt:
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2016, 10:30:12 AM »
109F for me  :lol
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #101 on: July 19, 2016, 11:05:34 AM »
Allied guys do not like it when they have an even match in aircraft....  :bolt:

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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #102 on: July 19, 2016, 12:05:36 PM »
Allied guys do not like it when they have an even match in aircraft....  :bolt:
I wouldn't call it even until I see the fighter force dispersement.
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2016, 01:16:51 PM »
An alternative to the D-day scenario is Dieppe -42, Spit V and a few spit 9:s vs fw 190. Can throw in the 109F to make it more fun.
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Re: Vote for battle and format of the next Scenario
« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2016, 01:26:39 PM »
Frodo, before you read any of the following, know that I do hope you fly in it.  Even if it isn't your first choice, it can be fun, and I hope you are there.  :aok

OK, now on to particulars.

So the voting was open for only 1 week and you get 39 people to vote. This is what you are going to base the next scenario on?

That's only part of it.

Prior to this, we had a lengthy discussion of the whole universe of possibilities, allowed any suggestion, collected up 17 different battle formats, then voted to narrow it down to 4 from among the 17.  That discussion was here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,379992.0.html

The voting process overall was open for three weeks with this being only the tail end of it, and I sent out e-mails to attendees of Scenarios telling them about the final voting.

I can't use more time than this because I have three months between running of Scenarios, where we need at the very least 1 month for design and 1 month for recruiting (and preferably more).  There is a schedule; we have to get on with it; and I did my best to let people know if they wanted to participate.

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Seems like you guys wanted a certain format and the other option was getting too close for comfort.

There is no "you guys" in charge.  There is one Scenario CM -- me.  If I were deciding it on my own, it wouldn't be one frame, and you can see my failed suggestions for theme of the battle in the topic referenced above.

Instead of me deciding, I opened it up to all suggestions and let everyone vote, and I had the whole process take up a few weeks (which is about the most that can be devoted to it).

I don't think it can't get much more fair, open, and inclusive than that.

So, it isn't you first choice, but please do fly with us.  I think you can still have a lot of fun, and folks like me will be glad if you are in it.  :aok