Broadwell E

[Gman]

You may have to set up a water loop bro, the hit that 5.0, but it IS doable.  My 6850 chips, both of them, are very content at 4.4 with the NZXT Kraken, IMO one of the top 3 or even 2 AIO coolers under 150$ (Swiftech IMO make the best AIO for the $, but for that money you can build a custom look, or at least get a good start on it).  I have the EK blocks for the 1080 cards, pumps, fittings, etc, so just need stuff for the CPU and a few other nicknacks and I'll report in on custom loop o/C with the 6850.

I tried two 6800 chips as I thought I had a poor o/c one, but nope, it seems they are happy at 4.0, a modest O/C, and CAN be pushed to 4.4, but the results aren't much more impressive than the 4.0 results, and it's a giant PITA for power/v settings and keeping 4.4 stable, so I've left mine at a happy 4.0, and that little 6800 performs very close to the 6700k in games, wipes the floor with it in apps, and is close to the same $.  The whole PCI E lane issue with SLI and m.2/other SSDs I discussed in another thread, and my tests showed that you lose nothing really due to the lane issue running SLI in games that I can tell.

I do NOT have a a 6950x yet, Jess still has her 5960x, and looks at me cross eyes, pulls faces, and flips me the bird when I tell her she's not "Jenny from the block" with last year's (3 years but whatever) CPU, and should drop the $to get it (so I can test and mess with it, ha ha).  We'll get one either way soon next trip back home and to the PC shop we use.  I'll be right there with you trying for 5k, because it's going to be a custom loop aaache toooo oooh system right from the gate.


As I've said a few times now, no question, the 6700k Skylake platform is slightly superior in fps at least over the 6800/6850 platform, and cost a bit less too, although not all that much for the 6800.  Editing videos, and doing all that tehcie stuff is where they do shine.  Personally, when the next Skylake platform comes, I'll probably sell/trade the Broadwell E systems other than the 6950x we'll have by then, go new Skylake, and go single 1080ti or 1080Titan instead of SLI - SLI , NEVER AGAIN.  It's the land of Israel chant for me regarding that setup.  NO MO.

[MADe]

my current builds at 4GHz, thats why I want to go for a 5GHz build. Things are quite snappy at 4GHz, I cannot go backwards.

I figure water is gonna be a must, but I will look around 1st. If I go that way, I would be all in. watered cpu, ram, vid card.

5.7GHz is being done on the 6950. the 1070 appears to have good headroom for OC'ing, might not need to OC ram, with the speeds they are advertising.

I plan on RAID 0 SSD's again. I have had such a good result with current setup that I will repeat it. Will stay away from m2. Leave pcie to video, sound and what ever else. let the storage be SATA 3. Later on as the software changes I can go PCIE/m2 SSD if needed.

[MADe]

http://lifehacker.com/its-been-a-fun-ride-but-im-done-water-cooling-my-pc-1689683422

OK I will not being going water. Everything this article mentions about pc access I had wondered about.

My HAF 932 and a quality CoolerMAster v8 will do.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/toshiba-ocz-rd400-pcie-nvme-ssd-review,1.html

And with new knowledge comes change of mind..... since I am dropping any type of sli, maybe I just add this, could be cheaper in long run.

[Gman]

I ran Raid 0 SSDs too once, having had run raid 0 10k rpm drives back when they were the fastest available for gaming PCs, thought I would try it with 830 Samsung drives a few years back.  Haven't since though, but again, who knows in the future.  There ARE dual m.2 socket MBs out there, and there are articles of people setting up Raid 0 950 Samsung drives, 2 512gb drives in Raid 0 would be pretty fast, as my single 950 m.2 is as fast or faster than my SSD Raid array was, just based on perception, I haven't ran any official tests to compared to the old data I have on how fast those 830 drives were in raid.

Something to consider though, getting a dual m.2 socket board, if that's something that interests you in the future to try.

[Estes]

Man that takes me back. I still have my 10k rpm WD Raptors around here somewhere, no idea if they still work or not though heh.

[Skuzzy]

If quiet is your goal, I recommend starting with a Fractal Design case.  We use the "Define XL R2" around here and it is hard to tell if the computer is on.

It is a big box with a lot of room in it.  Also pretty heavy.  Do not plan on hauling it around to LAN parties.

[Estes]

I've got that same one skuzz linked, except mine has the side window on it (bought it locally and was the only one they had) but it's the best case i've owned hands down. Sad thing is I've even owned cases that cost more than it did. 

[Bizman]

---Do not plan on hauling it around to LAN parties.

We tend to have room enough for any reasonably sized cases in our parties. OK's simpit must've been the biggest one so far. He had a trailer for it. Took a few of us to carry it inside.

<Edited after Skuzzy's comment, I'm slow...>

[Skuzzy]

We tend to have room enough for any reasonably sized cases in our parties. OK's simpit must've been the biggest one so far:

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Space is not the primary concern.  The case weighs over 35 pounds, empty!

[MADe]

I do not really care about noise. I already own a HAF 932. Will run with that. Mods are ez with it.

[flyndung]

my I7-2600 has done me well for the last 4-5 years. i was lucky to get it for 100.00 back then off ebay

[BoilerDown]

All else equal, in any given case, the bigger the fans the quieter it'll be for the amount of air it moves.  If quiet is important to you, check that first.

[MADe]

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5809#ov


http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5284#ov

Do I really need the expensive model? Whats it got going that the cheap one cannot match? besides 2 lan port....been using the x58 3D version with no probs for years, its OC'ed hard.........

[Chalenge]

I've been kicking around plans for getting a G1, or an ASUS equivalent. The dual M.2 support is interesting. I have not checked the manuals very carefully, yet. If it can do dual M.2 without losing SATA ports even better.

It's not about the cost. The point is to buy what you need. If you spend money on extras that never get used then that's the shame of it.

[MADe]

I've been kicking around plans for getting a G1, or an ASUS equivalent. The dual M.2 support is interesting. I have not checked the manuals very carefully, yet. If it can do dual M.2 without losing SATA ports even better.

It's not about the cost. The point is to buy what you need. If you spend money on extras that never get used then that's the shame of it.

It is about cost tho, why spend dollars on packaging and fancy crap if the underlying boards are identical and can be OC'ed the same. $100 would buy the cpu cooler
Thing is you get an AIC adaptation and put it in a pcie slot, same pcie lane access. If you use the m.2 ver with desktop, then its laid horizontal, it would be under the vid card.
If you want multi ports for RAID  purposes, if you are using only 1 vid card, onboard sound and lan, want AIC IMO for those pcie slots. I'm still learning.

But I might RAID 0, 2 OCZ 400's, .......

SATA just became relegated to back up storage ports.