Intel LGA 1150 PCI-X3 vs internal GPU.

[bustr]

The Intel LGA 1150 mother boards that include a PCI-Ex3 slot for a graphics card. When you select the PCIEx3 slot as the video source in the bios, how good is the override to the on board and internal GPU in a I5 4th gen CPU? 

Seems I've got to upgrade to at least an LGA 1150 MB, CPU and DDR3 RAM. My graphics card is PCI-Ex3 and the rest of the hardware in my ATX tower is compatible with LGA 1150 MBs. Yes the power supply is 750W.

[Chalenge]

I use the ASUS Z97 Pro Gaming (for recording videos) which automatically senses the presence of a GPU in the PCIEX16_1 and disables the onboard video. Even so you should disable it manually in the BIOS. I really think that the LGA 1150 is at the end of its service life and you would be better off with a nice Skylake system. I have the one Z97 system left and really even my older 780i MB could do the same work.

[bustr]

Thank you, I was wondering about that.

Now I have to convince my wife. I suspect sata3 HDs will not fair well in sata6 so I will have to dump all of them except for hooking one up to pull off legacy backup items. If I remember, sata6 will run sata3 but not very well as an OS drive. At least I have a 750W PS and a PCI-Ex3 graphics card. 

[Chalenge]

Oh, yeah. With the larger capacities that are available now you will want SATA III (6Gb). Skylake and better will also allow M.2, or NVMe that keeps getting thrown around here. There is a lot more to know and many, many more choices.

[bustr]

Do LGA 1151 cpu only support Win10?

[Skuzzy]

Do LGA 1151 cpu only support Win10?

Those CPU's/chipsets work fine with Windows 7, and up.  You might have to update a BIOS to get the CPU support, but that should be about it.

[BoilerDown]

Do LGA 1151 cpu only support Win10?

This is the manufacturer link from the most popular LGA 1151 motherboard on Newegg:

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z170-A/HelpDesk_Download

Comes with drivers for Windows 7, 8, 8.1, and 10.  I'd expect all the LGA 1151 motherboards to be the same.

[715]

I will be needing to build a new system to run AH3 (at high eye candy).  This article made me uneasy about choosing Skylake: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/   Am I taking the article too seriously or misinterpreting it?  (I really don't want Windows 10.)

[Chalenge]

They will have to drop support for any newer system type because the W7 OS was not originally designed with those systems in mind, therefore the cost in time and wages would offer zero sum return and actually degrade performance for older systems. So, yeah, totally understandable.

@bustr: the MB that Boilerdown linked to includes an M.2 NVMe socket that they report can hit 32Gb/s, which means you have a lot of options for a speedy/snappy system. I haven't tried one, because I lean toward the WS side of MBs, but it is popular for a reason.

@715: MS is at least aware of the complaints involving privacy. For the second time this summer I had to re-activate W10, and both times the support personnel went out of their way to tell me that they would not be looking at my personal files (d*** right, I reset the OS beforehand anyway so there was nothing to see), but the idea that they do not have the automated activation system of the past is curious at the very least. W10A Pro does have a lot of additional functions above and beyond what W7 ever had, but not anything W7 cannot have if wanted. Still, W7 no matter what you think of it is going to begin to lose ground from here on out.

[715]

It's not just the privacy issues that creep me out.  I read (perhaps incorrectly) that the Anniversary update even removes the users ability in Win 10 Pro to set Group Policies that prevented advertising from showing up on the "lock" screen (and possibly elsewhere).  Perhaps, again, I misunderstood, but if advertising showed up on my operating system, that I paid for, I would go high-order.  Does Win 10 really show unsolicited advertising?

Edit: I probably shouldn't have inadvertently hijacked the thread with "I hate Windows 10" drivel.  However, what is the generation of Intel processors and chipsets that Win 7 will totally support, i.e. what processor/chipset should I buy if I want to a) stay with Win 7 and b) run the latest graphics cards, probably a 1070?

[Chalenge]

Before now and 18 months from now MS could change their minds a half-dozen times or more.

The only place I have seen advertising is on Xbox games, and the Windows Store. They also send you a lot of notifications about Microsoft Office and if you go looking for plugins for Edge you will see a few ads. You could say that some of the MS Money articles are ads, or just about any panel of the Start menu, but they are all easy to ignore.

[Bizman]

I will be needing to build a new system to run AH3 (at high eye candy).  This article made me uneasy about choosing Skylake: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/   Am I taking the article too seriously or misinterpreting it?  (I really don't want Windows 10.)

As the article quoted Microsoft:

after July 17, 2017, only the "most critical" security fixes will be released for those platforms and those fixes will only be made available if they don't "risk the reliability or compatibility" of Windows 7 and 8.1

. So they will be patched if necessary. Personally, I prefer to leave other than critical security fixes uninstalled, they most often only add unnecessary background activity. I may be wrong here, but I suppose there won't be any radical changes in Windows 7 during the last four years of its supported life cycle. Thus, if it works now the performance level should not dramatically drop for the lack of updates. As they say, if it works don't fix it.

As for not wanting Windows 10, I'm also planning to stick with 7. However, as Chalenge said, MS may change their minds and their advertising has been easy to ignore so far. Further, Win10 really has some potential in it, it's the forced upgrading that made me grit my teeth. By the time the support for Win7 ends, I believe that Win10 has matured to be a solid platform without too many unwished features. The Anniversary update shows that MS listens to their customers, it's their bug checking that sucks. Let's just wait for a few more anniversary updates (and their patches) before making any hasty decisions.

Way back when I started to play AH, the debate was hot about upgrading from Win98 SE to XP. Many of us kept the older system way past the release of Service Pack 1. The same thing happened with the migration from XP to Win7. And now the debate is about moving from 7 to 10. Notice that I haven't mentioned the in-between versions, only the "beloved" ones.