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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2016, 07:35:33 AM »
What happens if HTC removes ENY because "the customer is always right" and I make a thread about wanting ENY back? 


....why...you would be misguided, of course.  There was never any problem that justified ENY in the first place.  Everyone knows that.

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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2016, 07:35:49 AM »
What happens if HTC removes ENY because "the customer is always right" and I make a thread about wanting ENY back?   :rolleyes:

Maybe setting up a vote, just like they did with the large maps? ;)
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« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2016, 09:02:36 AM »
Maybe setting up a vote, just like they did with the large maps? ;)
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2016, 10:54:58 AM »
Maybe setting up a vote, just like they did with the large maps? ;)

 :rofl This.  This right here.  Of course this example goes against the narrative, so it is not to be mentioned again.

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« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2016, 02:52:54 PM »
Good to see squads like Babybacks On the Wing do stand up stuff like switch to help with numbers issues.  Then of course the friggin AK's gotta come along and bork it all to hell. 
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« Reply #95 on: August 09, 2016, 03:39:34 PM »
Good to see squads like Babybacks On the Wing do stand up stuff like switch to help with numbers issues.  Then of course the friggin AK's gotta come along and bork it all to hell.
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #96 on: August 09, 2016, 03:55:59 PM »
What happens if HTC removes ENY because "the customer is always right" and I make a thread about wanting ENY back?   :rolleyes:

Numbers will tell that tale.   As it stands we are losing players over the status quo system. 
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #97 on: August 09, 2016, 04:04:15 PM »
Every time I hear "the customer is always right" in the context of this game, I have to think about the collision model discussions of the past...  ;)
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #98 on: August 09, 2016, 04:22:47 PM »
Numbers will tell that tale.   As it stands we are losing players over the status quo system.

Correlation does not prove causation.  ENY has been here since before I was playing and the numbers were still rising after I started.

One thing is for certain, there will be even less of an incentive to join the low numbered side if they can gang with 5 ENY monsters too.  What will happen is more people will log off, switch to the high numbered side, or quit.  The numbers will get worse, but at least you can still have your P-51D.


....why...you would be misguided, of course.  There was never any problem that justified ENY in the first place.  Everyone knows that.

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« Reply #99 on: August 09, 2016, 04:32:23 PM »
Correlation does not prove causation.  ENY has been here since before I was playing and the numbers were still rising after I started.

One thing is for certain, there will be even less of an incentive to join the low numbered side if they can gang with 5 ENY monsters too.  What will happen is more people will log off, switch to the high numbered side, or quit.  The numbers will get worse, but at least you can still have your P-51D.

Guess HTC is misguided too.

They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .

And with only 68 total players (or less) losing even three people over ENY hurts the game.

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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #100 on: August 09, 2016, 04:37:16 PM »
They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .

Wait, is it the ENY this week, or is it the large maps, or the lack of new maps?  Or is it the ack and GVs and ships?  Or is it the lack of perks on the planes that can run?

We really need to elect an official doomsayer so we stop getting mixed messages.  People need to know what's killing the game so they can complain in a unified manner.

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« Reply #101 on: August 09, 2016, 04:39:53 PM »
They are clearly correlated here. Anyone who can't see that is. . .

And what of those people who ignore the fact that numbers were still increasing while ENY was already in effect?

There are many factors for the decline of the player base.  Competition from "free" games and HTC resting on their laurels for too long are the biggest reasons IMO. 

Wait, is it the ENY this week, or is it the large maps, or the lack of new maps?  Or is it the ack and GVs and ships?  Or is it the lack of perks on the planes that can run?

We really need to elect an official doomsayer so we stop getting mixed messages.  People need to know what's killing the game so they can complain in a unified manner.

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« Reply #102 on: August 09, 2016, 04:41:54 PM »
Wait, is it the ENY this week, or is it the large maps, or the lack of new maps?  Or is it the ack and GVs and ships?  Or is it the lack of perks on the planes that can run?

We really need to elect an official doomsayer so we stop getting mixed messages.  People need to know what's killing the game so they can complain in a unified manner.

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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #103 on: August 09, 2016, 04:43:41 PM »
And what of those people who ignore the fact that numbers were still increasing while ENY was already in effect?

There are many factors for the decline of the player base.  Competition from "free" games and HTC resting on their laurels for too long are the biggest reasons IMO. 

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Increasing numbers minimize the swings in ENY.

When you have 500 players versus 30 well.  We all passed math.
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Re: ENY ENY every time I FREAKIN FLY
« Reply #104 on: August 09, 2016, 04:46:33 PM »
And what of those people who ignore the fact that numbers were still increasing while ENY was already in effect?


Some AH history:

ENY limiter was introduced in the summer of 2004. Before and tt that time the player numbers were actually going down. From late 2004 on started to climb until reaching their all time high in late 2007/early 2008.

Which doesn't mean ENY was THE reason for that increase either ;)

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