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Offline FX1

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AH 3 Video card List
« on: August 13, 2016, 10:54:24 AM »
Lets start a list with video card that can handle ah3. I will require one and i am sure other people like myself will be in the same boat.

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2016, 11:16:28 AM »
I would be more interested in what card your computer has and why you feel like it needs to be upgraded.  Just for informational purposes.

The video card decision is going to be based on what the player expects/wants in terms of graphic settings in the game.  This is something we have not had to deal with for a long time and it is a new paradigm for  many players.

For instance, the player who wants the highest frame rate with all the eye candy enabled will need/want a very different video card from the player who is happy with basic graphic settings and maintaining the vertical refresh rate in frame rate.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2016, 08:58:31 PM »
I purchased this cpu just to be a stand alone for AH last year. It run AH2 smooth but in beta its not holding up well.



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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2016, 10:17:00 PM »
I purchased this cpu just to be a stand alone for AH last year. It run AH2 smooth but in beta its not holding up well.



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      Time of this report: 8/13/2016, 20:54:21
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Looked up the vid card...............AMD R7 240-250 class w\ 128-bit mem bus using 2 Gb either GDDR3 or GDDR5 mem.....pretty low on the totem pole for AMD......be better if R7 250X w\ 128-bit mem bus using 2Gb GDDR5 mem (top of this line performer) but still low overall...........

I would think the CPU would be OK but I haven't used an AMD CPU since the Athlon X2 days (had an Athlon X2 FX-60 back then) so someone else will need to chime in here on this part......................... ......

Hope this helps.

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2016, 07:09:05 AM »
An AMD 240 should run the Beta at 1920x1080 resolution, with all the graphic options disabled and setting the "Maximum Texture Size" to 1024.  If you are expecting a solid frame rate of 60, it probably is not going to happen.  30 should be doable.

What everyone should do is compare their current video card to the NVidia 9800GTX+, as that is the baseline performance card (minimum requirement) for Aces High III.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2016, 07:41:53 AM »
What everyone should do is compare their current video card to the NVidia 9800GTX+, as that is the baseline performance card (minimum requirement) for Aces High III.

One tool for that comparison is PassMark Video Card Benchmarks, where you can find the 9800 GTX+ on the Mid to High End Video Card Chart, scoring 928 on the sixth place of that chart. This leads to believe that any card on the High End Video Card Chart should qualify since the lowest on the list scores 940.

Note that cards scoring 1000 or so meet the minimum requirement, they won't do well even with every feature disabled!

Knowing that HiTech uses a GTX 660 in his development system gives a hint that cards scoring 4000 or more should be able to draw 30+ FPS in all situations using default settings.   
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2016, 09:37:49 AM »
An AMD 240 should run the Beta at 1920x1080 resolution, with all the graphic options disabled and setting the "Maximum Texture Size" to 1024.  If you are expecting a solid frame rate of 60, it probably is not going to happen.  30 should be doable.

What everyone should do is compare their current video card to the NVidia 9800GTX+, as that is the baseline performance card (minimum requirement) for Aces High III.

which means with everything turned down or off the game is playable with this card. I DOESNT mean turn everything on and it plays great with this card.

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2016, 11:15:10 AM »
Nvidea 750ti doesn't cut it.

Everything turned off/min/zero on env slider.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2016, 11:46:23 AM »
An AMD 240 should run the Beta at 1920x1080 resolution, with all the graphic options disabled and setting the "Maximum Texture Size" to 1024.  If you are expecting a solid frame rate of 60, it probably is not going to happen.  30 should be doable.

What everyone should do is compare their current video card to the NVidia 9800GTX+, as that is the baseline performance card (minimum requirement) for Aces High III.

Hi Skuzzy,

Is the Nvidia 9800GTX+ vid card y'all using a 2Gb mem model?

If it is you might want to mention this as well as I have owned an EVGA 9800GTX+ vid card in times past but it was a 1Gb mem model and if mem serves me these cards at the base level also came out w\ 500Mb mem.........

If I am reading you correctly the reason why you suggested the 2Gb onboard vid card mem as minimum for AHIII is to minimize\eliminate the vid card using the graphics frame buffer swap file that the driver will request addressed in system mem (same reasoning why Win OS creates a page file on HDD) to help these vid cards perform better w\ AHIII by keeping the graphics frame buffer being used on the vid card's dedicated mem instead of it being swapped out to system mem, correct? The importance of meeting this suggestion is for performance reasoning, regardless of the rest of the vid card's metrics as this goes for all vid cards IMHO as the drivers are all written to request a graphics buffer swap file be addressed in system mem for this purpose. Is this correct as well?

The 1 item we don't know about FX1's R7 240-250 class vid card is the amount of onboard vid card mem it actually has on it as there are models available w\ less than 2Gb mem on them.................. If it has less than 2Gb of onboard mem on it, even w\ reduced graphics rendering load the card will still most likely be swapping these graphics buffers out to system mem slowing it down even more and making the experience even worse in addition to the reduced GPU performance the vid card will already be experiencing due to the graphics load..............

I believe this is what you're referring to when you stated the Nvidia 9800GTX+ as the minimum standard for AHIII but you didn't mention the amount of onboard mem that this Nvidia 9800GTX+ vid card that y'all used to develop AHIII with has on it......... 

Somehow I have a hunch it has at least 2Gb of onboard mem on it........................  ;)

Could open up a hole if this isn't accounted for as more powerful vid cards using less than the 2Gb minimum of onboard mem will suffer some performance degradation as well if they also start swapping graphics frame buffers out to system mem instead of keeping them onboard. This is the 2nd reason to reduce the eye candy level on a vid card that is having performance issues.................

If this is incorrect then please let me know......................... .

Not trying to hijack or anything, just trying to be helpful.................

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2016, 11:32:35 PM »
I would like to order a card asap so what would people recommend. Really don't have a budget but it would be hard for me to spend more than something that would run the game smooth and adjustable. I have other hobbies that I could use the money for  :cheesy:

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2016, 02:04:46 AM »
I have a gts 680 getting 59 fps everything looks nice.

Will it be poo when AHIII is rolled out?

Will getting another one be cheaper than getting upgraded card, and is SLI ok in AHIII?

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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2016, 06:29:48 AM »
The 9800GTX's we have, all contain 512MB of dedicated video RAM.  Yes, you have to disable every graphic feature, and turn down the "Maximum Texture Size" to 1024, or less.

With Windows 7, and later, 512MB of dedicated video RAM may be the minimum requirement.  Due to how DirectX works on Windows XP, the minimum may be 1GB for XP.

This is not cast in stone, yet.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2016, 01:03:09 PM »
I would like to order a card asap so what would people recommend. Really don't have a budget but it would be hard for me to spend more than something that would run the game smooth and adjustable. I have other hobbies that I could use the money for  :cheesy:

With the arrival of the Nvidia GTX 1070, the prices have dropped on the GTX 970 cards which is more than enough to run AH3 with all the bells and whistles.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2016, 01:06:31 PM »
I would like to order a card asap so what would people recommend. Really don't have a budget but it would be hard for me to spend more than something that would run the game smooth and adjustable. I have other hobbies that I could use the money for  :cheesy:

If you're in a hurry and budget is no issue, get the fastest card your system can take.  At the moment it seems that the GeForce GTX 1070 shouldn't give you any worries using a 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz monitor. It should work OK with tighter resolutions and/or higher refresh rates, maybe even 4k @ 60 Hz depending on the settings. GTX 970 is a good performer in the earlier generation, 980 being par with the 1070 and the new 1080 being pretty much the best gaming card money can buy. There's quite a many variables so it's impossible to say which card would suffice. 2.5 k, 4k, VR, 144 Hz... Or a combination of those. Not to mention that the 1080Ti has already been speculatively reviewed, so an even faster card is to be expected by Christmas.
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Re: AH 3 Video card List
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2016, 01:47:05 PM »
Yeah, at the moment the ultimate is the Pascal Titan X ($1200). In SLI it may even be able to run full environment at 4k and 60fps, but until someone tries we won't know.

I'm waiting on the next generation model with the HBM2 memory.
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