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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2016, 05:49:38 PM »
It has been found that 3 countries is the best setup.

When you had 500 players I would agree it had merit.

Not now.   It is diluting a small pool of players into borderline irrelevance.    Two sides will be much more dynamic and fun instead of the stagnant fronts we have now (YAWN).
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2016, 10:48:32 PM »
When you had 500 players I would agree it had merit.

Not now.   It is diluting a small pool of players into borderline irrelevance.    Two sides will be much more dynamic and fun instead of the stagnant fronts we have now (YAWN).

stagnat fronts?  why is it that everytime I log in there's a different map.


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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2016, 07:06:28 AM »
stagnat fronts?  why is it that everytime I log in there's a different map.


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Because the "peak a boo horde" keeps taking undefended bases. I think during off hours dar should show for all air cons even NOE. They've got to the point of making first pass in suicide lancs followed by a few clean up....troops are normally falling before anyone can get up, at which point it's not hard to keep attackers away from town. If this was a low number side doing it I'd be alright, but when the country doing it has TWICE the numbers of the other two...it's lame AKA Bishops. (Don't think a single person in their early morning crew actually wants to fight other players, just take bases)
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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2016, 07:24:51 AM »
If this was a low number side doing it I'd be alright, but when the country doing it has TWICE the numbers of the other two...it's lame AKA Bishops.

This night and morning it it had been the knights constantly outnumbering their enemy (at times by ridiculous amounts, promptly followed by ENY whines) and ultimately winning the map.
But we all KNOW it's only 'them', never 'us'  :banana:
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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2016, 08:35:02 AM »
stagnat fronts?  why is it that everytime I log in there's a different map.


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Because during off hours you have six players on one side and nobody on the others.

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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2016, 09:14:37 AM »

Because during off hours you have six players on one side and nobody on the others.

(Smackdown redacted to avoid Rule #4,  Trust me, it was a good one.)

so your statement about stagnant fronts is not really true.  or would you care to revise.


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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2016, 09:27:54 AM »
Forgive me if I missed it, but did anyone mention that ENY is already modifed for low total numbers?
Right now, with 9 ^Bish to 5 Knights Bish have 42.9% vs 23.8% of all players.  But their eny is 'only' at 4.3.

During prime, with much higher overall numbers, an almost 20 points of percentage player advantage over the smallest country would result in a much more hefty ENY limit.
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2016, 10:17:52 AM »
so your statement about stagnant fronts is not really true.  or would you care to revise.


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I don't need to revise.   

Try connecting the dots and you'll figure it out. 
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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2016, 10:48:56 AM »
Forgive me if I missed it, but did anyone mention that ENY is already modifed for low total numbers?
Right now, with 9 ^Bish to 5 Knights Bish have 42.9% vs 23.8% of all players.  But their eny is 'only' at 4.3.

During prime, with much higher overall numbers, an almost 20 points of percentage player advantage over the smallest country would result in a much more hefty ENY limit.

It isn't modified ENOUGH then.
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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2016, 11:23:35 AM »
Played a lot over holiday weekend...eny was in effect for bish almost entire time (played basically AH3, maybe a hour in 2)...never had a problem finding a ride...threads like this are for crybags that can't fly a pony every time they up... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2016, 11:40:14 AM »
I played last night in AH2 arena.

The eny was sorta stupid.

Either a lot of players switched, or they left. But it caused the knights to have a 25 eny cap.

Now the knights needed like 3 friggen bases on the bish to win the map, but noooooo, we had to fly Sopwith camels into spit16s and La7s and we couldn't even bring a plane that carried enough ord to keep the town and bases capped. It was pretty ridiculous. We couldn't win the map and now it will be up for another 5 days. Sigh.
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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2016, 11:41:51 AM »
I played last night in AH2 arena.

The eny was sorta stupid.

Either a lot of players switched, or they left. But it caused the knights to have a 25 eny cap.

Now the knights needed like 3 friggen bases on the bish to win the map, but noooooo, we had to fly Sopwith camels into spit16s and La7s and we couldn't even bring a plane that carried enough ord to keep the town and bases capped. It was pretty ridiculous. We couldn't win the map and now it will be up for another 5 days. Sigh.


Sounds like ENY worked.

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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2016, 11:49:14 AM »

Sounds like ENY worked.

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Worked my asssk, players switching sides that caused an eny cap in order to win the map is BS. Secondly, its a very large map, which has players spread all out, so taking a base is much more difficult when there are 90 others to roll from. No matter how hard you tried to coordinate with teamates, we didn't have the ord, tanks, or fighters to keep the bases down.

Basically, if your team cannot win a map because the other side has a gamed advantage, while people switching create a higher ENY to make it even harder to win the map, that simply isn't fair either.
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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2016, 12:29:40 PM »
It has been found that 3 countries is the best setup.
Ack... that does not explain why there are 3 sides  :bhead
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Re: ENY Again - Please Adjust it for Low # Times
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2016, 12:32:06 PM »
I played last night in AH2 arena.

The eny was sorta stupid.

Either a lot of players switched, or they left. But it caused the knights to have a 25 eny cap.

Now the knights needed like 3 friggen bases on the bish to win the map, but noooooo, we had to fly Sopwith camels into spit16s and La7s and we couldn't even bring a plane that carried enough ord to keep the town and bases capped. It was pretty ridiculous. We couldn't win the map and now it will be up for another 5 days. Sigh.

It did reset last night my friend :)
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