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Offline Easyscor

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The Invasion of France!

Never let be said that the AvA runs Recreations of History!
AvA War Tours 1 and 2 are proving that point.

Frame 1 of Tour 2 last week was an undeniable Allied victory, but this is the AvA War and the Axis could spring back this Saturday Night.

Both sides have been reinforced with medium tanks, Panzers 4s for the Axis and various Allied tanks represented by the M4(75) Sherman.

May 10, 1940 was Operation Fall Gelb (Case Yellow) also known as The Fall of France. Last week, we offered May 13, 1940, this Saturday will be May 14; The Invasion of France!

"German Forces are racing through the Ardennes and most of the Allied Forces are out of position in northern Belgium! The Axis have mowed through the villages of Luxembourg and Belgium! Commander, what are our orders! Commander!! We need you!"

General Gamelin has been removed, General Manstein has fallen ill and new Generals are required. Will you step up, Sir!
The Allies recruited skilled commanders last week and blocked the Axis at their starting bases in the Allied version of Blitzkrieg, but no doubt the bloodied Axis will be seeking revenge this week!

Forces from Sedan streaked east and captured Bouillon (v121) while the northern Allied army marched both south and east capturing Dinant (v152) and Modave (v173).

The Front Line (frame 2):

The front line stretches from v173 through v153, v144, A128, v121 to v119.
SEE the jpg.



Objectives: (Anything short of this is a tie.)

Major Allied Victory - Hold the Axis to their starting bases
Minor Allied Victory - Block the Axis at the Muses River running from Namur to Sedan. Base numbers V162, V152, V118.
If the Allies push the Axis back to the Rhine River, (any base on the river will qualify) then it's an Axis route.

Major Axis Victory - Capture a solid line of bases all the way to Antwerpen (clarification) or the Channel Coast.
Minor Axis Victory - Capture any base along the Muses River, V162, V152, V118.

Start time and frame dates: 9pm EST Saturday Nights
Frame 1: September 3
Frame 2: September 10*
Frame 3: September 17*
*The battles will pick up with the field ownership as it stands at the end of the previous frame.

Order of Battle:

The RAF
A151, A97: Spit 1, Hurricane 1
A126: Boston

The Allied Armies
Jeep
M3(including tank killer with 75mm)
M8
M16
M4A3(75)W
They have A177, A151, v162, A145, A126, v118, A97 and all bases to the west and newly captured v173. v152 and v121.

The Luftwaffe
a184, a147:   BF109E-4, BF-110C-4b
a184: Ju88A-4, H111-H

The Wehrmacht
Jeep
M3(including tank killer with 75mm)
M8
M16
SdKfz251
Panzer IV F
They own v185, v163, v153, v144, A147, v134, A128, v120 and all bases to the east.

Neutral starting bases in play:
None

Bases not in play:
Any base without a vehicle spawn point is out of play and doesn't count toward a win. There are no vehicles available at those bases except for A97, an Allied Airfield that can be put out of operation if the Axis captures A89 and v118.

Trigger points:
The Panzer IV F and the M4A3(75)W are operational now.
Clarification: If A128 is captured by either side, and they capture the next vBase in their advance (v121 for the Axis or v134 for the Allies) then v121 becomes active for fighters on the capturing side. It may also advance a sides bombers.
v121: If the Axis capture v121, then Axis fighters are enabled at a128 and bombers at a147. Axis bombers remain at a disadvantage until then. Once Axis bombers move to a147 they are not disabled at any later time.
v118+a89: If v118 Sedan and a89 are captured by the Axis, then the Allies loose a97 as their airfield for the remainder of the tour.
If a side loses its primary Fighter Airfield, a vBase will be assigned. If a side loses its primary Bomber Airfield, the next nearest safe Airfield will be assigned.

Settings:
Vox: Cross Country channel 223 monitored by the CMs and players
GVs: Unlimited lives.
Fighters: Unlimited lives.
Bombers: Unlimited lives. No formations. 2000lbs of bombs Max. MA bombsight.
Manned Guns: Active.
All bases will have GV's, but not all bases will have planes.

Basic Arena Settings:
Fuel Burn Rate: 1.0
AI Ack: Man on the street annoying.
Protect Objects: On
KillShooter: On
Ditches Score Kills: On
Enable Flight Reconnect: On
Objects destroyed: Stays down for MA standard, including town buildings.

Town down for capture (a sliding scale*):
<20 players in the arena: 20%
20-40 players: 40%
>40 players: 50%
*player counts are based on players in-flight at frame start, not total arena population.

Radar:
Tower Only Radar: 39600 feet(6 miles) dot dar tower only, range ring active. ATC encouraged. 3 second delay
Radar minimun altitude 300 feet. darbar radar is the same.
RadarMode[country] = 569 or 0x0000 0239


Icons: 3k Friendly 0k enemy for both Planes and GVs.
Icons: GV icon seen (by planes) at 100 yrds


WarningFlags:
GVs: 1 mile
Fighters: 2 miles
Bombers: 3 miles

Weather: variable.

Terrain: AvAeto

Feedback is Welcome on these setups!

The AvA War concept:
Until such time as these tours draw more players, we will use close airfields and short flight to make up for low numbers. When the roster fills with more participant, we will extend the flight times by picking bases further from the front lines as well as widening the front lines.

The History:
The early stages of World War II saw successful German invasions on the continent aided decisively by the air power of the Luftwaffe, which was able to establish tactical air superiority with great efficiency. The speed with which German forces defeated most of the defending armies in Norway in early 1940 created a significant political crisis in Britain. In early May 1940, the Norway Debate questioned the fitness for office of the British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. On 10 May, the same day Winston Churchill became British Prime Minister, the Germans initiated the Battle of France with an aggressive invasion of French territory. RAF Fighter Command was desperately short of trained pilots and aircraft, and despite the objections of its commander, Hugh Dowding that the diversion of his forces would leave home defenses under-strength, Churchill sent fighter squadrons to support operations in France where the RAF suffered heavy losses.
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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2016, 12:17:25 PM »


Just in case you've missed the announcement, Frame 2 of 3 runs tonight!
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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2016, 02:03:34 PM »
so what is the diff between AVA and the MA?

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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2016, 05:52:39 PM »
so what is the diff between AVA and the MA?



Only axis planes vs allied planes for one thing. No spitfire vs spitfire.

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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2016, 06:30:30 PM »
Also, excellent setups for tank warfare. We can get away with great tank battles because our players have usually already learned how to navigate with fog and no icons making it improbable you'll spot GVs from the air. It evens the odds for GV vs Bomber. The GVs might actually have the advantage.

We're still experimenting and putting a lot of work into it right now so come try it out.
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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2016, 07:17:39 PM »
The next one can you mix things up, maybe a
Japanese vs British, or
Russian vs American, or
Russian vs British or
German vs Japanese or
Naval US vs German
Naval US vs British
Naval US vs Russian


mix up the countries and avoid this "real" scenario same old planes vs each other.


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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2016, 07:55:11 PM »
Thanks for your interest.

Japanese vs British could sorta work for Malaysia down to Singapore, but even that would be a stretch for the ground war. The Japanese rode bicycles and the Brits were forced to flee their onslaught without armor. It was primarily a ground battle. We might be able to do something with Jeeps and M8 and toss in a planeset available at the time but we'd need to review it.

At least the distances aren't prohibitive for that one. You must move into Papua New Guinea a year or so later before the distances work again for our kind of setups.

There are many good setups we can run. We haven't yet scratched the surface!
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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2016, 08:51:23 PM »
The next one can you mix things up, maybe a
Japanese vs British, or
Russian vs American, or
Russian vs British or
German vs Japanese or
Naval US vs German
Naval US vs British
Naval US vs Russian


mix up the countries and avoid this "real" scenario same old planes vs each other.

how about, you write us up something that we can look at and we might consider it. id be hard pressed to come up with a
situation, even with my overactive imagination, that I can think up that type of setup.

we did run a Germany attacks pearl harbor once..... but that's as good as it gets and it really wasn't that well received.

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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2016, 08:44:21 AM »
British vs Naval US

British Planeset

Spit 9/8 or spit 14/16
Tempests and Typhoons
M8

US planeset

F4U - 4
F4U - 1C
F6F
LVT


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The British can begin to destroy Carriers after a set amount of time
The British CANNOT recapture fields while the US can up from captured fields
Air Bases are non - capture-able
Carrier Groups CAN be destroy
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I'm imagining a Wake Island Type map that will allow for multiple amphibious invasions (not just one at the beginning), after capturing the initial base US ground forces can use the vehicle bases to mount additional attacks.

double or triple the size of the actual wake island

US navy would start from the North west corner with the British having one airbase as shown on the map.

The Land areas are narrow and trees would force close quarter engagements and cool targets for air forces.



« Last Edit: September 15, 2016, 08:46:00 AM by Randall172 »

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Re: The Invasion of France ! 1940 -- AvA War this Saturday Sept 10th 9pm EST
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2016, 02:22:27 PM »
we have a terrain coming that might work. we'll test it out and see if its feasible! thanks for that. we'll give this some serious consideration.