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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2016, 10:44:53 AM »
The problem is that your eye gets acclimated to blue light by "backing away" from it.  This results over time in myopia.

I have always hated fluorescent lights.  They're obnoxious to a huge degree and LEDs are now worse. 

Energy saving isn't as important to me as preserving my vision.  Thus I am stuck trying to find the solution in a world that doesn't even notice the dangers.   

The government mandating the extinction of fluorescent bulbs is an example of unintended consequences that may prove to offset the intended savings by a significant amount. 

If the the door range on an LED is in the incandescent range does this mean the blue light is shielded somehow, by dye or some other mechanism?   Can the blue spectrum of an LED be "turned off" in production or only masked?



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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2016, 12:48:15 PM »
I understand your concern, there's macular degeneration in my family and I've started to visit the eye doctor annually. Blaming blue light being the sole reason for the increasing number of myopia is too simplified. Instead or at least alongside there's this constant trend of looking near so the eyes can't get their rest. You know what I mean? If you're not sitting at an arm's length of a monitor, you're staring at your smart phone or tablet. And aside of the electronic devices you're looking at papers on your desk in front of the monitor. The TV being a couple of yards away is the most distant object people now seem to watch. When was the last time you've spent a whole day looking at the horizon?

And yes, as far as I can understand if a LED has the same colour temperature than an incandescent light bulb the amount of blue is similar. It can be done in many ways starting from an external layer of yellow dye to building them to produce warmer light. Either way, the lower the colour temperature is the less blue light there is. There's no such thing as invisible blue light. If the light looks yellow/amber/orange, there's no room for blue.

For colour temperatures for different light sources, this might give you some advice:



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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2016, 01:10:21 PM »
Excellent chart. 
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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2016, 01:52:12 PM »
Excellent chart.

Looked like one to me too. So now your main concern is to get the warmest white or 2700K LEDs to avoid the blues.
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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2016, 08:16:38 PM »
I presume some wavelengths of blue are worse than others so limiting the worst parts of the spectrum would be nice. 
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I was under the impression that LED monitors emit much more intense blue light than previous technologies...

You'll have to research and decide what wavelengths you consider bad and then try to find blue blocker sun glasses that block those wavelengths.  I used my cheap spectroscope to measure my LCD monitor (almost certain it's not an LED backlight monitor).  When showing pure blue the spectral light emitted is about 440 nm to 490 nm.  (Note: 490 nm is not even blue, it's more blue-green.)

You can do the same with your monitor by purchasing a cheap spectroscope on Amazon.  Search for "EISCO Premium Quantitative Spectroscope, +/- 5nm Accuracy": it's only $10.  (Note if, like me, you have zero accommodation, i.e. no ability to focus except at one distance, then you might have to use reading glasses with this spectroscope: you have to be able to focus at 8".)  If you have an LED backlight monitor the emission may be similar to mine as white LEDs are actually blue LEDs with a phosphor coating.  According to the specs of one white LED I checked the blue part peaked at 460 nm with a range between about 440 nm and 480 nm.

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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2016, 08:40:24 PM »
Sounds about right, guys.   :salute
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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2016, 01:04:15 AM »
My new Benq 2430t has this feature. From their site...

http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/XL2430T/features/


"Low Blue Light as Eye Safety Precautionary Measure

Practice long hours with clear, comfortable vision or compete with top-notch vision condition with BenQ’s new Low Blue Light. The blue spectrum light, which is produced by regular computer screens, is a critical cause of eye damage, eyestrain, headaches and sleeping disorders. Now with the offering of various adjustable low blue light levels, gamers can better protect their eyes. So there would be no need for yellow tinted eyeglasses for additional eye protection, and gameplay can be clear, comfortable and hassle-free!"

I use this feature for browsing and watching simple web content. Is this what you're referring to? I have not tried it in game yet.
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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2016, 10:43:56 AM »
That would be nice.   I don't have the funds for a new monitor right now though, so a screen filter is what I was after in the interim. 
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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2017, 01:45:30 PM »
The Windows 10 build for March "should" include an adjustment for blue light. It is included in the latest preview build ISO for insiders.
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Re: Blue Light Screen Filter
« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2017, 04:54:36 PM »
Could it be ?

I might be optimistic here but since I installed Flux on my work laptop and home desktop *set at 5600 (going on 4 weeks) I haven't had any ocular migraines (previously 1 - 2 a week) I get the half round zig zag patterned obstructions in my vision followed by headaches usually at around my temples followed by a dull foggy head.

I use a dell laptop for work but a fairly new Asus 144hz for home

Could it be?

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