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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2016, 12:38:12 PM »
I have no trouble believing atmospheric CO2 is influenced by human activity.

What I am skeptical of is the belief we can reverse it.

Wiley.

One good volcano poping off will do more CO2 than most anything else.

I find it funny that we pressure so many limitations on our industries here in the US and then buy from china. We all know how china is about pollution. It affects everyone globally. Shouldn't we limit by law what can purchased from countries that do not have the same anti pollution requirements?
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2016, 04:50:17 PM »
China is for ex the leading installer of solar Power and have signed the Paris agreement. They are definitely concerned about the environment  - simply because the smog has turned the cities to gas chambers. The pollution levels in china is just insane and even they just have to do something about it.(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/14/air-pollution-in-china-is-killing-4000-people-every-day-a-new-study-finds). They have a lot of work to do but they have became aware of the issues. 
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2016, 05:07:30 PM »
China is for ex the leading installer of solar Power and have signed the Paris agreement. They are definitely concerned about the environment  - simply because the smog has turned the cities to gas chambers. The pollution levels in china is just insane and even they just have to do something about it.(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/14/air-pollution-in-china-is-killing-4000-people-every-day-a-new-study-finds). They have a lot of work to do but they have became aware of the issues.

China has also allocated areas of the country as toxic waste sites for the production of green energy products of solar and wind.  Possibly more strict environmental protections would help....but we know what that means, cost.  Besides the pollution, china will probably set the standard for climate action.  The attempts at stopping the Gobi desert, high birth rates, and food production are innovative.  It is a good thing to have them innovating instead of just copying,i think.  :headscratch:

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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2016, 05:41:08 PM »
They have messed up a lot and they will pay the price for it, one way or another..
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2016, 08:27:35 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2016, 08:47:22 PM »
Changing climate isn't an issue in itself, the problems occur when it goes too fast. Both humans and nature need time to adapt. If sea level rises as much as in the worst case scenarios it will be a big deal for a lot of our major cities along the coast lines. Poor countries will have problem to cope with increasing temperatures and the risk is that it sparks conflicts and increase migrant streams.

And there are other issues as well, what would for ex happen if everyone used as much oil as the average American? global population is going to peak at somewhere around 11 billion and if all of them is going to live a first World Life then we need 6-10 times more oil than today...
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2016, 02:03:05 PM »
Average estimates seem to be about 1 meter sea rise per 100 years.  That's pretty slow.  Also, many high-to-low tides are larger than that.

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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #67 on: December 26, 2016, 06:34:00 PM »
Putin hacked the polar vortex!  :old:

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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #68 on: December 26, 2016, 07:37:41 PM »
Damn French!
I think he is a French-Canadian. 
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #69 on: December 26, 2016, 09:59:15 PM »
I guess I dont have a problem with sea level rise as long as you do away with the federal flood insurance program as well as fema. Let the coastal states deal with it. Why should the rest of the country subsidize shore line living?
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #70 on: December 27, 2016, 03:40:55 AM »
I think he is a French-Canadian.

At his age!
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Re: Polar vortex,ice storm,....doom
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2017, 09:27:56 AM »
 
Bad weather in UK and a skilled pilot safely  landing an airliner is strong crosswinds :salute ;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4108474/M62-closed-lorry-BLOWN-Forth-Road-Bridge-severe-weather-hits-UK.html

Video recorded few days ago east of Toronto;


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDCC28jchzk

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