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Offline DubiousKB

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2017, 11:32:28 AM »
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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2017, 12:43:52 PM »
A.

Why?) Need more early warbird events. You will atract more axis pilots to give you a fight.

Also - Why always bombers for allied side and no representation for Axis? The scoring garentees an axis loss if ANY bombers hit target. Unless axis get bonus for killing bombers

Event will need 110s and/or 410s at least if you are tossing in b17s.

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2017, 01:48:00 PM »
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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2017, 04:03:38 PM »
Howdy, Owlblink.

In some of the historical battles we take as themes for scenarios, one side had bombers and the other didn't, or one side had carriers and the other did not.  If we want them to have a historical feel, that's how they were.  In the case of 8th AF strategic bombing, the whole heart of the battle is US fighters trying to get US bombers to target, and the Luftwaffe fighting to stop them.  Even if we wanted to give the German side bombers, the Ju 88 couldn't be it.  It would get annihilated compared to B-17's.

Now, figuring out the right balance is less certain than if the sides are symmetrical, but it can be done.

Here is a simplified case just for illustration.  Let's say you have 2 P-51's and 2 B-17 formations against 2 109K-4's and one FW 190A.  Let's say the scoring is such that a kill is one point and a formation hitting its target is worth 3 points.  Now, in the battle, the two K-4's tie up the two 51's in a fight.  Meanwhile, the 190 attacks the bombers, shooting down one of the formations while the other one hits its target.  The points are 3 for the allies and 3 for the axis for that particular result.

There are more complications in a real scenario setup, but the balance can be there we know because the historical running of them came out close, or one side won some frames, and the other side won other frames, or it was run more than once with the ultimate victor being axis in some runnings and allies in others.

In this case, we are basing the setup on past scenarios that worked out OK, using their plane sets, their relative numbers, etc.

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2017, 05:27:02 PM »
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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2017, 06:49:13 PM »
All have Jugs. I simply can't lose no matter which one.
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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2017, 07:18:54 PM »
All have Jugs. I simply can't lose no matter which one.

Howdy, LilMak.  C won't have a lot of them, though -- maybe just one flight of P-47M's.

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2017, 07:22:31 PM »
Also, C perhaps would have a small number of Ta 152's -- that would be tbd in design discussion as well.

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2017, 08:49:00 PM »
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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2017, 09:56:09 PM »
C,  with the request to reform the DGS II 364th FG 51s :)

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2017, 11:31:47 PM »
Oh to put up 10 fighter groups again like we did in DGS II. 

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2017, 11:42:22 PM »
For a history Junky the DGS Scenarios were the most fun for me.  During DGS II I started piecing together all the gear of a WW2 ETO fighter pilot.  Only recently did I add the final piece when I got a B-8 backpack parachute.  Needless to say it appears just in time for an ETO scenario. CorkyJr is most ready to get back in a 51 for that :)

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2017, 01:09:01 AM »
Howdy, LilMak.  C won't have a lot of them, though -- maybe just one flight of P-47M's.
And if I showed up and asked the CO for an M you think that guy wouldn't hold a slot for me?

Honestly, "A" is the most favorable for a Jug pilot. I flew a D-11 under similar circumstances and didn't lose a single airframe for 12 hours.
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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2017, 01:55:22 AM »
Im sure youd get one. To do otherwise would be a crime against nature.  :aok I just wasnt sure how many you would want to command.

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Re: Vote on what will be the June, 2017 Scenario
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2017, 04:35:38 AM »
I thought the next one was going to be a one-day, 12-hour Battle of Britain. Is that going to be a format other than a Scenario?