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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2017, 01:21:25 PM »
Had same problem with latest NVidia driver had to rollback to previous.

Annoying and time consuming.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2017, 01:26:20 PM »
So there ya go! Maybe they have do a problem, Houston! But I'm at .92. <shrug> Running a 1060 tho.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2017, 01:35:10 PM »
Got brief message 7zip failure while unpacking files so installation program never ran. Tried 2x same result.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2017, 01:59:21 PM »
I just updated to 375.95 and flew an offline sortie without issues. My main reason to update was fan noise: Even simple websites made the GPU fans spin at an audible level. The ones I chose were among the oldest suggested drivers on the Geforce site. I chose them because they were the latest of the 375.## series, naively suggesting that they would be the best ones of that series. Fully matured, so to say. Supposing Nvidia follows the standard numbering rules, the numbers before the dot are indicating a generation change, new features and other major changes whereas the digits after the dot would tell the level of patches made. However, I'm not sure if they ever finalize one driver series before launching a new one...
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2017, 01:15:49 AM »
Update: It was proofed again that not all Nvidia drivers work the same. After the update I started to occasional get freezes when a new program starts, followed with a "display driver stopped responding" message. If I only knew which drivers worked best with the rest of my system since I believe that even the latest drivers still would be fully compatible with the 970.

For what I've read it might also be a PSU issue.

Annoying and time consuming indeed.

« Last Edit: April 06, 2017, 01:28:33 AM by Bizman »
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2017, 12:07:53 PM »
And yet another update: I now can confirm that the latest Nvidia drivers, 381.65, may have issues. I got the aforementioned 7-zip error, too. 368.80 seem to work for me so far, tomorrow may tell otherwise.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2017, 01:02:49 PM »
I'm reading that this driver was "Optimized" for the Win 10 Creators update, I wonder if that has something to do with the issues, a whole host of issues in both the Nvidia and GeForce forums

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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2017, 04:48:02 PM »
OK if you come here asking for advice I'm guessing it's because you don't know something so if people are trying to help you out maybe try following their advice?
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Drano,

I welcome informed answers to any question I post on these Forums, such as Bizman's.  But when a response clearly indicates that (for whatever reason) the respondent mis-read my previous posts, all I can do is point this out.  No big deal; we all mis-read things on occasion. 

Got brief message 7zip failure while unpacking files so installation program never ran. Tried 2x same result.

Essentially, this is what occurred with 378.66.  I interpreted the 7-zip incident as a preliminary stage in the "running" of the installer, as it occurred after I invoked the exe file.  But as you imply the "main portion" of the installer never ran.  In such a case, there's not much I can do, unless I can convince Nvidia to fix the installer.  I am distressed that you guys are reported at least 2 additional incidents of this, though.  EDIT:  Checked the Nvidia forums and this is a not-uncommon issue. 

I'm reading that this driver was "Optimized" for the Win 10 Creators update, I wonder if that has something to do with the issues, a whole host of issues in both the Nvidia and GeForce forums

In the case of my OP, I was downloading the installer released for Win7 and Win8.  The Win10 version is a separate file. 

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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2017, 08:34:25 PM »
Update: It was proofed again that not all Nvidia drivers work the same. After the update I started to occasional get freezes when a new program starts, followed with a "display driver stopped responding" message. If I only knew which drivers worked best with the rest of my system since I believe that even the latest drivers still would be fully compatible with the 970.

For what I've read it might also be a PSU issue.

Annoying and time consuming indeed.

Here's a thought.  Recall how you are supposed to install drivers in a specific order on a new system (something to do with interrupts?).  I wonder if using a driver cleaner and then reinstalling just video somehow affects this. 

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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2017, 05:39:15 AM »
The nvidia driver that failed for me was 378.92.

A newer version 381.65 was released yesterday. Haven't tried to install 381.65 yet.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2017, 08:42:12 AM »
Here's a thought.  Recall how you are supposed to install drivers in a specific order on a new system (something to do with interrupts?).  I wonder if using a driver cleaner and then reinstalling just video somehow affects this. 

MH

If that were the case we would not be able to change from AMD to Nvidia or vice versa without reinstalling Windows. Also, wouldn't that affect all driver versions and not the latest ones? I've done the installing both using DDU and not using it, the newer drivers seem to give me "stopped responding" issues no matter how I install them.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2017, 10:07:27 AM »
From the release notes of the newest 381.65 drivers.

Windows 10 Issues
 [GeForce Experience]: Driver installation may fail when attempting to perform a
driver overinstall.
To workaround, perform a clean installation.

So there ya go. Involves rebuilding any profiles you've made for your apps but there's the way around it. Well..... Hehe.... Maybe!

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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2017, 11:13:30 AM »
Well, for what it's worth, on my Win7 system I have done a clean install every time. Plus I installed the graphics drivers only, no extra features. I don't use them.

Now that I remembered it, I also disabled the High Definition Audio of the card in Device Manager. It had the native Windows drivers automatically installed.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2017, 12:53:25 PM »
On 378.92 with no issues. Won't go up to new driver until I hear more good news....previous driver caused my mp4 video play to shat the bed.
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Re: Recommend safe Nvidia driver cleaner, to allow update to latest?
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2017, 01:23:24 PM »
On 378.92 with no issues. Won't go up to new driver until I hear more good news....previous driver caused my mp4 video play to shat the bed.
Same driver version. I've noticed my video capture quality has suffered drastically at similar bit rates that I've used in the past. I can still get a good quality output but only at much higher bit rates with correspondingly larger files. Much higher being no less than 12kb vs 4 before.

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