C919 Passenger plane maiden voyage

[nrshida]

I don't think the modern Chinese culture particularly cares very much about originality or innovation. If they encounter something good they just scrobble it and see nothing wrong in it. I was once told its even considered a compliment.

 

[zack1234]

 

What do they know about fireworks any way

[nrshida]

What do they know about fireworks any way

And cooking 

Once I was trying to buy a copy of "The C Programming Language" by Kernighan & Ritchie. Couldn't afford it, it was over £45 in the English bookshops. I had a Chinese friend and when she was visiting her parents she bought me a copy, slightly smaller with a Chinese preface, exactly the same text, perfect quality and glossy paperback binding: £2.

[Vraciu]

I don't think the modern Chinese culture particularly cares very much about originality or innovation. If they encounter something good they just scrobble it and see nothing wrong in it. I was once told its even considered a compliment.

That's a lot of it.    But monkey-see-monkey-do only works so long in a cockpit.     Building an integrated, computerized, large passenger plane or supersonic fighter?    Shudder.

It may be a compliment, I don't know.   I tend to think it is more like laziness coupled with competitive ruthlessness.   

[Toad]

I tend to think it is more like laziness coupled with competitive ruthlessness.

I think it's more like stealing.

[Vraciu]

I think it's more like stealing.

Pretty much.   Lol

[nrshida]

I think it's more like stealing.

Ideas and designs are the easiest thing to steal and a year later those same people have forgotten where 'their' idea originated. Welcome to my world 

[Vulcan]

China has a well-documented history of corporate espionage.

So did the Soviet Union, such as with the Concordski as one example.

Well at least America hasn't bugged corporates like google and facebook, or conducted mass internet surveillance and let the NSA spy on companies like... umm.. Airbus.

...or spy on your allies national leaders.

 

[Brooke]

That, too -- the pervasive intrusion and mass spying -- is horrendous and should not be tolerated.

[Ripsnort]

Slogan contest:
For example:

"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"

This C919 is from COMAC.

Take your best shots

If I don't have my Prozac, I ain't flying COMAC.

[Busher]

That's a lot of it.    But monkey-see-monkey-do only works so long in a cockpit.     Building an integrated, computerized, large passenger plane or supersonic fighter?    Shudder.

It may be a compliment, I don't know.   I tend to think it is more like laziness coupled with competitive ruthlessness.

LOL - this from a guy who flies an airplane made in South America.

[Zimme83]

Both Japan and S. Korea started in the same fashion as China and eventually they had gathered enough experience and know how to develop the stuff by themselves. That is about to happen for China as well.

[Lusche]

Both Japan and S. Korea started in the same fashion as China and eventually they had gathered enough experience and know how to develop the stuff by themselves. That is about to happen for China as well.

German industry did basically start the same way, just 100 years earlier. They bough the machines, they hired the foreign (=British) personnel, they commited industry spionage abroad. They copied (badly, at first), they learned & improved. And started to export cheap stuff....
It's always the same cycle. 

The label was originally introduced in Britain by the Merchandise Marks Act 1887 to mark foreign produce more obviously, as foreign manufactures had been falsely marking inferior goods with the marks of renowned British manufacturing companies and importing them into the United Kingdom. Most of these were found to be originating from Germany, whose government had introduced a protectionist policy to legally prohibit the import of goods in order to build up domestic industry (Merchandise Marks Act - Oxford University Press).

[Vraciu]

LOL - this from a guy who flies an airplane made in South America.

And your point is...?

[FBKampfer]

I see no real problem with it. Aeronautical design is a very well researched area, especially in the transport area. There are very few new ideas, mostly just incorporation of old technology into a new design, or vice versa.

Saying they "stole" anything would be like saying any aircraft with an elliptical wing stole from Supermarine. Or that P&W stole from Heinkel with their axial compressor turbojets.

And those bastards at SAAB stole from the Wright Brothers by using a canard wing.


Nobody owns physics.