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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2017, 05:30:43 PM »
titt for tat

so we won't be playing AH3 anymore.. it will be Stream's AH3?
we will have to log into stream--will have to pay stream and AH3?

No.

Steam users will just be able to use steam to pay for and play AH3 in the same arena as everyone else.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2017, 05:46:42 PM »
Voted !

I think this could be the injection of new players we want.
If this happens AH need to keep trainers online to help newbies, like we did in WB, where there was a "get help from a trainer" button, with setup and ACM.

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2017, 05:52:23 PM »
To the steam user, they would simply have a different login and payment method. But they would be playing in the same world as non steam users.
The game would still be available able just as it is now.

End user price would have to be the same across all venues.

I vote yes if I could, Steam wont let me.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2017, 05:55:18 PM »
Voted !

I think this could be the injection of new players we want.
If this happens AH need to keep trainers online to help newbies, like we did in WB, where there was a "get help from a trainer" button, with setup and ACM.

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2017, 06:08:37 PM »
Poor skuzzy will have additional workload monitoring the forum on Steam if AH goes that route.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2017, 06:16:25 PM »
^^ LOL AkAk.

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To the steam user, they would simply have a different login and payment method. But they would be playing in the same world as non steam users.
The game would still be available able just as it is now.

End user price would have to be the same across all venues.

HiTech

That was my only question, asked and answered.

Voted.

I don't know how much, if any, of a risk this is for HTC, I really hope it works out, if only a fraction of the sim players on Steam try the game out and then only a fraction of those stay, it could mean full arenas pretty quickly IMO.

If this does happen, the current players need to do our best to welcome and help new players that show up from Steam.  Many players have been asking HTC to make "moves", and this is a big one, in order to increase the player numbers, so we should do our best to support it if it goes down.

Favorite, follow, and share this on Steam, the more attention it gets, the better.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2017, 06:23:43 PM »
Concur
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2017, 06:39:22 PM »
If this does happen, the current players need to do our best to welcome and help new players that show up from Steam. 

THIS

Just a little help can make all of the difference between someone staying and trying OR giving it up in frustration.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2017, 06:53:36 PM »
I have not defiantly decided to publish on steam but the first step is to get it approved. Then all will depend if a deal can be made.

So please go to the green light and vote.

Please Vote on this green light page

HiTech

When you have a deal and that part you can share with us as to how it effects us is made clear, you may have to make decisions we won't like for the future of the game regardless of Ack-Ack's assurances. Then I will be happy to vote, at which point you will know if this is a good venture for you and the game by the deal you will have in hand. And I won't need to vote. This vote is a bit of a Catch-22 at this point. Until then we won't know about things like terrain creation and other content if steam will force you to restrict it to a single controlled source employed by HTC for quality control, limit your arena offerings, or place restrictions on special events to protect their image of quality control. You will be the only person who will know these once you have a framework to sign a deal upon.

After all of these years you already know you have players who want this game on steam and have lobbied rabidly in POSTS when they come up for you to move to steam. Throwing out a vote here in the forums is singing to a small choir of people who expend more effort in the gaming world than many in the MA. I will venture you will get more go for it votes than don't go for it votes out of these forums. Will you throw out a vote in the MA, and how much will that scare some of your older players who may be a larger group than these forums denizens? Will they understand you moving to steam when they have just been thrown into turmoil with AH3?

It's not an issue of moving to steam if that will get more players signed up, it's an issue of how you do it.

And how much steam will be able to impact the larger core group of customers who don't come to these forums perception of what they pay for to be entertained by. I'm more interested in seeing how this is sold to them to see how they will take it. Moving to steam is not a bad thing if you Hitech is handling it, I just don't want that transition to end up as a cricket farm during prime time. Right now this game is not populated in the MA by a bunch of 11-30 years olds who love and demand change for the chaos of it all. Granted if handled right, it may well move into that direction at steam of repopulating Aces High. The game won't crank them up and pull them into it's addiction if you don't have all those vets in the arena now doing the Aces High thing that hooks people like it did them. Back when all of those older vets a decade ago were doing the Aces High magic thing that hooked the current vet generation.

Keep your vets and this has a good chance of working, scare them in all the ways they always can be scared, and unfounded rumors on 200 and greifers on range seeing a chance to get rid of the old rednecks with the transition is all it will take. There will be no core group of vets to keep the Aces High magic alive. Because this game and that magic is a generational thing no matter how much the gamers want all the old vets to eat it and die or go away and stop turning the place into an old redneck guys home.

Listened to alot of that during the closed alpha by younger players who signed up just so they could get a peak at what was going on. In their opinion AH had to many redneck sounding geezers. What a Catch-22 for that Aces High Magic that makes it unique and how it gets generated.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2017, 07:03:15 PM »


It's not an issue of moving to steam if that will get more players signed up, it's an issue of how you do it.

And how much steam will be able to impact the larger core group of customers who don't come to these forums perception of what they pay for to be entertained by. I'm more interested in seeing how this is sold to them to see how they will take it. Moving to steam is not a bad thing if you Hitech is handling it, I just don't want that transition to end up as a cricket farm during prime time. Right now this game is not populated in the MA by a bunch of 11-30 years olds who love and demand change for the chaos of it all. Granted if handled right, it may well move into that direction at steam of repopulating Aces High. The game won't crank them up and pull them into it's addiction if you don't have all those vets in the arena now doing the Aces High thing that hooks people like it did them. Back when all of those older vets a decade ago were doing the Aces High magic thing that hooked the current vet generation.

Keep your vets and this has a good chance of working, scare them in all the ways they always can be scared, and unfounded rumors on 200 and greifers on range seeing a chance to get rid of the old rednecks with the transition is all it will take. There will be no core group of vets to keep the Aces High magic alive. Because this game and that magic is a generational thing no matter how much the gamers want all the old vets to eat it and die or go away and stop turning the place into an old redneck guys home.


Bustr, relax man, read the posts:
To the steam user, they would simply have a different login and payment method. But they would be playing in the same world as non steam users.
The game would still be available able just as it is now.

End user price would have to be the same across all venues.

HiTech


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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2017, 07:05:45 PM »
When you have a deal and that part you can share with us as to how it effects us is made clear, you may have to make decisions we won't like for the future of the game regardless of Ack-Ack's assurances. Then I will be happy to vote, at which point you will know if this is a good venture for you and the game by the deal you will have in hand. And I won't need to vote. This vote is a bit of a Catch-22 at this point. Until then we won't know about things like terrain creation and other content if steam will force you to restrict it to a single controlled source employed by HTC for quality control, limit your arena offerings, or place restrictions on special events to protect their image of quality control. You will be the only person who will know these once you have a framework to sign a deal upon.



Valve will not force HTC to limit arena offerings or place restrictions on special events, or any content such as player created skins, sounds or tools like the terrain editor.  They haven't done so with the games the studio I work for has on Steam.  When we put our games on Steam, we just had to make sure that the Steam version of the game was able to "talk" to the Steam client so it can use stuff like Steam achievements, Steam community overlay, etc., and never tried to impose any restrictions to the core game development.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2017, 07:21:58 PM »
Valve will not force HTC to limit arena offerings or place restrictions on special events, or any content such as player created skins, sounds or tools like the terrain editor.
 

Ok, that's a good thing and a good question answered.

If I don't have to subscribe to Steam and put their software on my machine, if I can just keep paying and playing the way I always have.....I'm for it.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2017, 07:34:24 PM »
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2017, 08:04:57 PM »
nice idea
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2017, 08:18:57 PM »
Don't have an account to vote but if HTC thinks it will draw more targets for us, we can't be against it  :aok
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