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Offline Ack-Ack

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #510 on: June 11, 2017, 12:30:51 PM »
Well Zoney, if you were able to get 3x more players at 10 dollars. You would be making more revenue. An economical scale would tell you that because #s (demand) has dropped, lowering prices might actually increase the economy of scale by supposedly getting a much bigger increase in demand. Maybe once the demand excels passed a point, you could begin to slowly raise the cost again.

I am glad that you don't run HTC.  Your business model leaves something to be desired.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #511 on: June 11, 2017, 12:39:49 PM »
I am glad that you don't run HTC.  Your business model leaves something to be desired.

It is yet too early to tell if HTC's model of staying small will work out in the end. Many businesses have had very long and slow death spirals and such events are not new to the world.

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #512 on: June 11, 2017, 12:41:21 PM »
It is yet too early to tell if HTC's model of staying small will work out in the end. Many businesses have had very long and slow death spirals and such events are not new to the world.

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #513 on: June 11, 2017, 12:43:15 PM »
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I don't think you read the "very long and slow death" part.

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #514 on: June 11, 2017, 01:00:07 PM »
So what changed? I brought this up in January. 24th to be exact. I recieved:

Steam is too expensive.  We would have to double our monthly subscription rates to make any money.  Steam is suited for one time charge games or fremium/free games.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #515 on: June 11, 2017, 01:50:32 PM »
Does it matter? What's important it will be on steam now.

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #516 on: June 11, 2017, 03:34:12 PM »
It's time to open the gates!



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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #517 on: June 11, 2017, 05:43:57 PM »
I am glad that you don't run HTC.  Your business model leaves something to be desired.

I was just presenting an economical theory for a new marketing and promotion opportunity that Steam will bring.  There's going to be tons of  reviews . The biggest disconnect is the time to try the game before you have to sign up. Most of my friends can't believe I pay $15 a month for this game.  People like us who have a passion for this game are different than brand new customers. We actually understand the game. So either only super passionate people will stick around, or you can fill up the arenas quickly by creating a promo, and allowing players to stay in the game longer, before paying a full premium.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #518 on: June 11, 2017, 07:56:51 PM »
It's time to open the gates!


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Over the years I have desired nothing more than to see this game surpass its golden days of old and be optimized to its fullest potential. AH3 is here release the gates! :banana:
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #519 on: June 12, 2017, 02:17:42 AM »
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #520 on: June 12, 2017, 07:26:48 AM »
I had bangers and mash for dinner, and an Old Speckled Hen.  I thought of Zack.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #521 on: June 12, 2017, 10:46:28 AM »
I just checked, and WWII Online appears as "Free to play" on Steam.  How does Steam take a $ cut of Free to Play games?   Are they all micro-transaction based, and Steam takes their cut from those?

And War Thunder, DCS WWII, IL-2, WWII Online - they're all on Steam.  Aces High needs to be there too, I think.   Pricing?  I have no clue, and while 1 month free and $9.99/mo thereafter appeals to me as a consumer, I don't know about most Steam users.  They may be too used to free-to-play to be willing to fork over a significant monthly sub?

If a typical subscription duration really is 2-5 months, then it seems pretty close to someone paying $50 for a title and playing on free online servers until they tire of the game and move on to something else (averaging the 2-5 months to 3.5 months, * $14.95/month = $52.33).   I prefer the security and predictability monthly subscriptions provide to the game developer though.  Especially if its a small shop that concentrates on evolutionary enhancements to a single title.

Warthunder is a freemium game where you can purchase time to get a higher rate of xp.

I personally like freemium because it encourages content creation on the developers (stuff to buy), and you will generally see many more players in the game than if had a pay wall. For a game thats claim to fame is large players counts, you have to have "large player counts" to really stand out (thats why ww2 online went f2p).

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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #522 on: June 12, 2017, 10:57:01 AM »
Warthunder is a freemium game where you can purchase time to get a higher rate of xp.

I personally like freemium because it encourages content creation on the developers (stuff to buy), and you will generally see many more players in the game than if had a pay wall. For a game thats claim to fame is large players counts, you have to have "large player counts" to really stand out (thats why ww2 online went f2p).
For an arcade style game freemium works! WT is a good example.

For a knock down-drag out war simulator like AH3 the only true investment is time. The more time a player invests in the game the more successful a player will be. From length of time played to how a player flies his/her aircraft investing time is the #1 factor imo. 

When I am patient in a fighter and take my time during engagements I dont make mistakes. Mistakes are usually what gets me shot down. When flying bombers that extra 10-20 minutes of climb out can make all the difference in defending against multiple aircraft. Im sure the same can be said with gv's but im at a disadvantage when it comes to that.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #523 on: June 12, 2017, 11:04:57 AM »
I am glad that you don't run HTC.  Your business model leaves something to be desired.
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Re: I have been considering steam since the beging of april.
« Reply #524 on: June 12, 2017, 01:27:02 PM »
Yep.  That's exactly what happens here too.

You rent a car for 24 hours and turn it in in 20 hours you don't get a refund for the time unused.

You buy a ticket to the baseball game and leave in the 7th inning, you don't get a refund for the unused 2 innings.

You enter a 30 lap motorcycle race and crash on lap 15, you don't get half your entry fee money back.

You subscribe to Aces High for 30 days and quit in 20...........well, I think you can figure out the rest.

Cancel your cable subscription before the end of the  month and they will shut it off immediately and refund the pro-rated balance

Cancel your car insurance before the term is up and they will shut it off immediately and refund the pro-rated balance.

Cancel the electric service at  your house and they will....OK you get the idea.  :grin:
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