9GIAP immediate suspension from FSO

[Dantoo]

Yep it's all about entitlement to a ride.  It's not VF17.

I am happy to send a copy of the emails that were sent public by the original poster of same.  It was clear from the start that the email was purposed to intimidate not only me, but future CICs into rolling over and acceding to the demand and the ride-preference column now becomes the agenda.

When I signed up to FSO the rules were quite different.  They were far more open.  They have changed many times over the years.
One of the current requirements is that squads take turns at being CIC for their assigned side. 
I am unable to accept that responsibility if there is going to be new interpretation that you may demand a particular ride, or a particular side and if not granted then you can open fire and abuse and threaten until you get what you want.

This week it was about P-38s.  I assigned them (and an important but tough role) to the 68th Ligntning Lancers.  The 68th always welcome a thankless task with humour and they also happen to be a P-38 squad.  They used them well.

The concept that any squad can demand a particular ride is an anathema to me.  That they feel an entitlement after nominating a preference is beyond me.  That they self-righteously bully the community until they get their way is too much for me.

I won't be part of that.

[DH367th]

This whole episode is under review please do not turn this into a witch hunt. Let us have time to review this.

[gflyer]

I believe it became more about the lack of maturity on both sides.  Name calling, whining about rides, quitting FSO cause no one jumped in to support my "putting the bully" in his place.  That email trail should have died after the whine about the rides. This thread should have never been started.




 

[waystin2]

Yup.  Same damn squad as last month.  Grow the hell up guys.  This is two FSO Tours in a row now that you have mangaged to piss off every one around you.  Well done. 

[Drano]

I'm amazed that wasn't being dealt with privately. No excuse for that. I'll never understand this whole dedicated axis/allied/certain ride crap. You can do that to your heart's content in the MA. In FSO you fly the mission assigned. That's how it works. Dantoo has always gotten that. His standard preference is "just glad to help". Something wrong with that I guess? If it's some major heart attack because you HAD TO fly axis or vice versa then I submit you have got to have about 17 screws loose.

I fly a P-38 like 99.9% of the time in the MA. If I get to fly one in FSO that's great. If I don't I somehow find a way to pick up the shattered pieces of my life and move on. It's happened more than once I think!

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Dantoo

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[FBDragon]

This cannot be allowed, to cry and whine cause you don't get what you want, then resort to e-mail and name calling. Well there is no "2 sides" to that period. Dantoo, you know I have your back period. I'd have anyones back for that matter in this type of case. Who ever you are, (I really don't need to know who) grow the hell up!!! Even though were a dedicated axis squad (German) we don't get our preferred ride but we don't cry about it we do what is asked of us, end of story!!!!

[BFOOT1]

Dantoo we have your back sir 

[Masherbrum]

I believe it became more about the lack of maturity on both sides.  Name calling, whining about rides, quitting FSO cause no one jumped in to support my "putting the bully" in his place.  That email trail should have died after the whine about the rides. This thread should have never been started.

I'd go all-in, that you were affected by what transpired.   How close am I?   

[KCDitto]

WOW,

With the numbers so low here and you have to put up with this childish crap?

Sorry Dantoo.  You know we support you and your squad.

I sure hope this gets worked out and someone mans up and admits a wrong apologizes and we can all move on.

From a dedicated AXIS squad, I can tell you that we fly what ever we are given and do the best we can to accomplish the mission. Sure, we may squeak about it over VOX to ourselves, but we still do what we can.

I admit, I do complain about PTO set ups, cuz well, they SUCK, but I still show up and fly that ZERO into a fiery death.

This is a game that is supposed to take you away from that crappy drama of real life for a few hours a week, unless you are in a ZERO then it is like 30 minutes, but hey.

Lighten up and enjoy the ride........ even when you are on fire, appreciate the time it took to right the code to make that crackling sound as you burn.

Have Fun

Ditto

[Dawger]

Posting of emails are strictly forbidden.

[nrshida]

Well if you want an external / detached opinion, looks like a misunderstanding over the term preference which could have been handled without escalating into insulting and condescending implications of pretentiousness.

[Dantoo]

No emails allowed posting.

[waystin2]

Yup it's a 475th repeat. This happened in May, after they got to fly 38's for two weeks straight.  Pull your heads out Dawger and crew.

I had originally posted Dawger's round 1 I want and deserve a P-38 whining email from May , but thought what does it serve?  Several CO's saw it and several of us told him to get over himself.  I am surprised that other CO's did not jump in to the conversation again this month.  If he does not like it here, I suggest he takes his girls and takes a hike.  The CM's need to curb this behavior now.  If they do not then it is being encouraged.

[LilMak]

Dawger, perhaps you don't understand how FSO works? For the record, my crew feels the same about 47s as you do 38s. I'm telling you from experience that you need to lower your expectations. You should consider yourself lucky if you get your ride once per month. Hell, half the time I think I'm doing well to get the SIDE I want. Your email came across as petty and childish and I think you owe Dantoo an apology.

[Nefarious]

It would have been very easy to contact Dantoo and 9GIAP and the 68th Lighting Lancers using the email list and respectfully request to switch with them for their P-38s.