Author Topic: Chess Piece Loyalty, ENY, the Bish Dominance Problem, and a Suggestion  (Read 12043 times)

Offline molybdenum

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And I think bish dominance IS a problem, even though I'm usually bish: it's disheartening to many of the people on the other side when their team has little chance of winning. Sure, you win lots of maps; but is it a big picture win when in doing so you might lose players?
There are a number of reasons the bish currently rule the AH universe, but numbers is the primary one. There are simply more bish on most of the time, especially in the early mornings US, and the necessary evil of ENY only partially addresses the issue. A horde and a little teamwork will usually overwhelm defenders; and if they don't, it's easy enough for the horde to regroup and attack someplace else (complaining about the crap planes and GVs they have to use as they do so) and try again.
In my opinion the concept of chess piece loyalty compounds the problem. Among many (most?) players there is an aversion to flying against people you recently flew with, like it is a betrayal or something to do so. I frankly don't understand it but it's pervasive and nothing I say here or on country is likely to change it. But it matters. You have a pervasive imbalance in player numbers skewed towards the bish and neither ENY nor increased perk point earnage for a lower numbered side seems to make much difference.
What MIGHT make a difference, however (bish squad leaders, I'm talking to YOU) is to take your squad to the nits or rooks next tour. Believe me, they have the same ratio of good guys to a-holes the bish do. Some of the people you found irritating as adversaries you'll find to be great to fly with as allies. The benefits are twofold. 1st, you break out of a potentially stale rut and find a fresh aspect to the game that might surprise and please you. And 2nd, you help make the game more dynamic; more balanced; more dramatic.
Give it a shot! I'll be working on my own squaddies concerning this. Why don't you?

Offline Dace

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So much truth here.

I've often thought, if just one of the big bish squads would switch, the numbers imbalance would be solved. It is , however, plain to see and if they haven't done it by now, they're likley not going to. I think they enjoy the numbers advantage they have all the time (probably the reason they joined a horde squad in the first place) and ENY is not enough of a deterrent to get them to change.

Offline atlau

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This might be unpopular but how about each tour or every time the map is reset players are randomnly assigned to countries. Randomnly assign squads too to allow them to stay intact.

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The Pigs and the 56th switched to the rooks when the knights were the team with the advantage. That evened up the side for a bit. I really dont see the Bish doing the same to even things up.

Offline ghi

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See Rule #4
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 10:40:24 AM by Skuzzy »

Offline Zener

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Why try to force people to play a certain way?

If someone is so upset that they can't win a map, maybe they should do the side-switching instead of making everyone else go through some kind of swapperoo thing.

Imbalance is part of this game.  Tell me the last time you flew into the area of an enemy held field - by yourself - and only one of their planes engaged you.  Probably never; you usually get horded before you can say the word itself.  It's that team's job to defend their base and there is nothing "balanced" about it.  Eliminate all red icons - isn't that what one is supposed to do?  So there will always be imbalance.

The planes and vehicles are not all equal either, yet some expect to be able to shoot down every bomber as though they were all the same and no matter the capabilities of their own ride; or for their plane to be invulnerable, faster, and out-turn everything else.  But they don't, each has its own capabilities and that's why there are choices.

What of the people who have flown for every country and decided which one best suits their style of play?  Should we ignore that or say it's invalid in some way?  I don't think so.



Offline Scca

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Oddly, for a long time, Bish always had low numbers. The last several Bish rotations the AK's did, 262's were always cheap. Last month, it was high ENY during prime time.

Well, July first came, and we are now nit. 

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Offline Max

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Oddly, for a long time, Bish always had low numbers. The last several Bish rotations the AK's did, 262's were always cheap. Last month, it was high ENY during prime time.

Well, July first came, and we are now nit. 
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Until 6 months ago I was a Bish going back to 2003. Low numbers? Shirley you jest.  :devil Now and again; perhaps but as a rule? No way.

Offline NatCigg

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I flew knights for, i dont know, 7 years or so. was lots of good people. there was a lot of love for the team but also a good amount of hate for the bish and their "not quite ww2" type of gameplay.  With time the knights also left the "ww2" type of gameplay yet kept the hate for bish.  I was at a loss that "strike teams" could be so racist as to ignore the war (not to mention "ww2") just to hate on bish.  I attribute it to lemmings and a terrible leader (hehe, kinda like Hitler and ww2).  With time The Knights ability to play the game my way was lost, I was not alone. It was common knowledge the bish generaly play the game as a team more than others.  As the game became worse and worse on knights there was no choice in my book other than to fight the hate and insanity the knights became, I went bish.  The game has been much funner flying for bish and I believe the numbers show, others think similarly.

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Offline jimbo71

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Don't try logic & common sense on a bish.  It only angers them.  They're like trail horses, only know how to follow the arse in front of them...  :old:
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I will kill anything that is not a Pig.  Especially bishop. :aok
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Offline pembquist

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Let's change the names to Oceana, Eurasia, Eastasia. That way we'll all know who is TRULY evil.
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Offline caldera

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Let's change the names to Oceana, Eurasia, Eastasia. That way we'll all know who is TRULY evil.

That is pure genius.  :aok
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Offline puller

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I flew knights for, i dont know, 7 years or so. was lots of good people. there was a lot of love for the team but also a good amount of hate for the bish and their "not quite ww2" type of gameplay.  With time the knights also left the "ww2" type of gameplay yet kept the hate for bish.  I was at a loss that "strike teams" could be so racist as to ignore the war (not to mention "ww2") just to hate on bish.  I attribute it to lemmings and a terrible leader (hehe, kinda like Hitler and ww2).  With time The Knights ability to play the game my way was lost, I was not alone. It was common knowledge the bish generaly play the game as a team more than others.  As the game became worse and worse on knights there was no choice in my book other than to fight the hate and insanity the knights became, I went bish.  The game has been much funner flying for bish and I believe the numbers show, others think similarly.

<S> Bish!  Death to Knights!

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Offline Ramesis

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This might be unpopular but how about each tour or every time the map is reset players are randomnly assigned to countries. Randomnly assign squads too to allow them to stay intact.
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