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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2017, 07:41:43 PM »
well that sucks. Glad no one was hurt.
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 07:31:55 AM »
Oh No! Not Gunfighter! I bought a ride in her, once. Hope they can patch her up.  :pray Glad no one was hurt. At least I don't think anyone was.

edit: nope not GF.
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 09:21:04 AM »
Nope, it was "Miss Velma".

I have some pics of her as she settles in and I also have pics of "Berlin Express" losing it's Malcom Hood in flight.

Berlin Express first. All fine here.



The Hood breaks up and trails aft.



Pieces of Plexiglas trailing aft of the vertical fin. Report is Vertical and Horizontal hit by debris but no control issues and landed safely.



Now Miss Velma. Miss Velma had to make an emergency landing in a field near Duxford today, pilot reported OK. Report is the engine failed and could not make airfield. Looks a bit like the gear was being retracted I think as she goes in but I'm not sure of the sequence of the photos. Looks like down and locked when she was somewhat higher but could be a difference in photos, photographer position. Not really sure on that.

She was taking part in the ‘Balbo’ formation of around 20 aircraft from the various internet info. This is 10 years after her epic trip across the pond and one repeated this year by Berlin Express.









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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 09:43:36 AM »
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2017, 11:20:57 AM »
amsoil is banned from duxford now everytime he shows up a 51 gets it in the neck.   
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2017, 11:40:50 AM »
First airshow ive been to since the late 90's and a plane goes in ....
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2017, 04:37:26 PM »
expat you should have said mate.   

we had a few ahers there.

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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2017, 06:53:18 PM »
I can't resist!

"Tower, I'm having engine trouble in my Mustang, I'm going to run through my crash landing checklist!

(1) Partially open canopy- CHECK
(2) Enter a 10 to 15 degree bank, definitely don't level off- CHECK
(3) Partially retract landing gear- CHECK
(4) Keep the struggling engine running to make the prop is spinning when it hits and leave the fuel flow on- CHECK"
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2017, 09:44:38 PM »
Bruv
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2017, 10:31:35 PM »
I can't resist!

"Tower, I'm having engine trouble in my Mustang, I'm going to run through my crash landing checklist!

(1) Partially open canopy- CHECK
(2) Enter a 10 to 15 degree bank, definitely don't level off- CHECK
(3) Partially retract landing gear- CHECK
(4) Keep the struggling engine running to make the prop is spinning when it hits and leave the fuel flow on- CHECK"

Are you being critical of the pilot? If so, why?
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2017, 12:54:56 AM »
He missed the fence posts.  :aok
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2017, 07:19:30 AM »
Bruv
Touch wood will be back next year   :aok
there bringing torchwood back kool.
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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2017, 09:04:50 AM »
 :rofl

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Re: P-51 emergency landing
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2017, 10:01:12 AM »
I can't resist!

"Tower, I'm having engine trouble in my Mustang, I'm going to run through my crash landing checklist!

(1) Partially open canopy- CHECK
(2) Enter a 10 to 15 degree bank, definitely don't level off- CHECK
(3) Partially retract landing gear- CHECK
(4) Keep the struggling engine running to make the prop is spinning when it hits and leave the fuel flow on- CHECK"

s^%# happens FAST. I don't think we can say how many of the things we're seeing in these limited pictures are results of improper action by the pilot, and how many are symptomatic of the failure. Not to mention, these three pictures alone don't give us a full idea of what was happening.

1) You want the canopy open enough to get out in case of fire, as the canopy may be damaged by the impact enough that it seizes in position. Fully open is NOT a priority at this low altitude, time-critical juncture. It's open enough to get out if it bursts into flames. Good enough.
2) Maybe straight and level lead to a house. In that case, I'll take my chances dragging a wing first rather than a direct impact with an obstacle.
3) I don't know my P-51 systems terribly well. Could they have been in the process of retracting when the engine failed and took hyds with it? There are circumstances where no gear is better than particular unsafe gear conditions. Perhaps they were extending and failed to fully extend?
4) I would cite number 2. Getting the airplane on the ground safely is more important than protecting the engine.

I'm not saying no mistakes were made, I'm just saying your being awfully critical based on such limited information.