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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2017, 06:30:04 AM »
My apologies if my post seemed to be harsh with words, Adjuster!

I was just trying to get you some help from someone with experience with the new AM4 Ryzen CPU's

Cheers

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Not in the slightest harsh, I'm just so impressed that this community is so helpful.
Pudgie just sent an awesome response.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2017, 11:35:27 PM »
Just to give a demonstration of what to somewhat expect using an AMD R9 Fury X vid card running Crimson 17.7.2 drivers using VSR to render graphics in AHIII @ 4K (3840 x 2160) res then frames are downsampled to fit this 27" Asus MG279Q Gaming IPS monitor @ 2560 x 1440 res @ 90 Hz RR using FreeSynch w\ all game & graphics settings left as set in last video posted in this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,384435.150.html

Here is the video of my Team Red box running AHIII rendered @ 4K:

https://youtu.be/MrUvfOqjNXE

Enjoy!

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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2017, 04:47:08 AM »
ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K UHD FreeSync 1MS LED Gaming Monitor

Unit Cost :$549.00

Pushing budget even further, but this looks good value for 4k

Alternatively

AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" Full HD Adaptive-Sync Curved 144Hz 5MS LED Gaming Monitor

Unit Cost :$499.00

Cheaper but only 1080

Or eat beans for a few weeks ....

Acer Predator XB281HK 28" 4K G-SYNC 2 1MS LED Gaming Monitor

Unit Cost :$829.00

Opinions guys 😊
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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2017, 04:33:33 PM »
ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K UHD FreeSync 1MS LED Gaming Monitor

Unit Cost :$549.00

Pushing budget even further, but this looks good value for 4k

Alternatively

AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" Full HD Adaptive-Sync Curved 144Hz 5MS LED Gaming Monitor

Unit Cost :$499.00

Cheaper but only 1080

Or eat beans for a few weeks ....

Acer Predator XB281HK 28" 4K G-SYNC 2 1MS LED Gaming Monitor

Unit Cost :$829.00

Opinions guys 😊


Hi Adjuster,

What I'll give you here will be somewhat based on what you've posted already.

I read that you already have a 4K res 55" TV that you're using and can hook your new build up to it, yes?

From reading your postings I'm deducing that you're a fan of 4K res as you've picked 2 of the 3 gaming monitors choices to be 4K res capable, so if this is so then it is my thought that you will need to settle this outright concerning a LCD monitor purchase to use when not using your existing 4K TV. Either you want this LCD monitor to be 4K or not and if you do want true 4K then you will be limited to a max of 60Hz at this time.

If FPS\RR >60Hz is important to you (1 of the main reasons why 1 would purchase a 1080 series graphics card) then you'll have to give up the true 4K res LCD monitor at this time and only look at options w\ res <4K in general...........unless you're gonna spend a LOT more money than you've shown as your budget!

I typed this to get this out in front of what you've asked us for.....our opinion(s).

So in light of your particular situation I would recommend your 2nd pick, the AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" Full HD Adaptive-Synch Curved 5ms 144Hz Gaming Monitor as it is the least expensive, has some of the newer tech out, has 144Hz capability (which will allow you to really enjoy the 1080 graphics card's FPS speed w\ V-synch enabled.....) which will drastically improve control input lag issues which is a BIG issue for gaming, 1920 x 1080 res is still IMHO the best all around res to have\use for gaming AND you already HAVE a 4K res device in hand that you could use so would you really need 2 of them?

Also both camps, Nvidia AND AMD, have provided the means within their drivers the capability to render full 4K graphics frames then downsample the finished 4K frames to be able to display them on as low as 1920 x 1080 res monitors (Nvidia's DSR & AMD's VSR) as a means to bring the experience of 4K graphics to lower res monitors....ie, "poor man's 4K".....at much higher FPS to boot than you'll find on ANY true current 4K monitor out today. The Nvidia 1080 you've chosen should be able to do this easily w\ this monitor....so again, why would you want to buy another true 4K monitor for gaming?

This was 1 of the reasons why I cued up the video & posted it here to demonstrate this DSR\VSR tech for you to consider before I gave my opinion. A lot of users IMHO have completely glossed over this capability being available to them....this can also be used to bring 2K (2560 x 1440) res to an existing 1920 x 1080 res monitor as well..............

As always, hope this can help you out.

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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2017, 05:41:53 PM »
Hi Adjuster,

What I'll give you here will be somewhat based on what you've posted already.

I read that you already have a 4K res 55" TV that you're using and can hook your new build up to it, yes?

From reading your postings I'm deducing that you're a fan of 4K res as you've picked 2 of the 3 gaming monitors choices to be 4K res capable, so if this is so then it is my thought that you will need to settle this outright concerning a LCD monitor purchase to use when not using your existing 4K TV. Either you want this LCD monitor to be 4K or not and if you do want true 4K then you will be limited to a max of 60Hz at this time.

If FPS\RR >60Hz is important to you (1 of the main reasons why 1 would purchase a 1080 series graphics card) then you'll have to give up the true 4K res LCD monitor at this time and only look at options w\ res <4K in general...........unless you're gonna spend a LOT more money than you've shown as your budget!

I typed this to get this out in front of what you've asked us for.....our opinion(s).

So in light of your particular situation I would recommend your 2nd pick, the AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" Full HD Adaptive-Synch Curved 5ms 144Hz Gaming Monitor as it is the least expensive, has some of the newer tech out, has 144Hz capability (which will allow you to really enjoy the 1080 graphics card's FPS speed w\ V-synch enabled.....) which will drastically improve control input lag issues which is a BIG issue for gaming, 1920 x 1080 res is still IMHO the best all around res to have\use for gaming AND you already HAVE a 4K res device in hand that you could use so would you really need 2 of them?

Also both camps, Nvidia AND AMD, have provided the means within their drivers the capability to render full 4K graphics frames then downsample the finished 4K frames to be able to display them on as low as 1920 x 1080 res monitors (Nvidia's DSR & AMD's VSR) as a means to bring the experience of 4K graphics to lower res monitors....ie, "poor man's 4K".....at much higher FPS to boot than you'll find on ANY true current 4K monitor out today. The Nvidia 1080 you've chosen should be able to do this easily w\ this monitor....so again, why would you want to buy another true 4K monitor for gaming?

This was 1 of the reasons why I cued up the video & posted it here to demonstrate this DSR\VSR tech for you to consider before I gave my opinion. A lot of users IMHO have completely glossed over this capability being available to them....this can also be used to bring 2K (2560 x 1440) res to an existing 1920 x 1080 res monitor as well..............

As always, hope this can help you out.

 :salute

This is why I ask 😆

Once again thanks for the great and detailed information.

Think I've made the decision now, the AOC is curved and whilst I'm not convinced about the natural view blurb I do know that if you have windows in the room curved screens cope better with reflection from the room. It's one of the hidden features I found when I got the TV.

Thanks once again 😆
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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2017, 10:07:38 PM »
No problem, Adjuster.........

I have to say though that in the end it's your money my friend..........if you really want either of those 4K monitors (or any of the other items) then don't let any of my recommendations stop you if those choices are what you really want.

I know that you know this already...........but I felt that I needed to say it, if for no other reason, for my sake.

Hope all works out for you & will be glad to help out where I can.

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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2017, 05:01:12 PM »
Taxman just dropped $6k in my account   :x

Off shopping later today, then gonna build a complete rig from scratch.

Budget has exploded, but as I wasn't expecting this rebate from the kind people in the Australian Tax Office I intend spoiling myself rotten 😆

So with a fair wind and plenty of tea I should be back in the air this evening  :aok

I think by about 10pm here (10 am Friday EST) I should be dying frequently in the MA
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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2017, 05:11:18 PM »
Adjuster, is this your first time building a new PC from scratch?

Happy for ya, you are ready to go for it now....

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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2017, 05:43:28 PM »
Adjuster, is this your first time building a new PC from scratch?

Happy for ya, you are ready to go for it now....

TC
No built a few in the past, been a while tho, but looking forward to it 😊
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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2017, 08:15:32 PM »
Good for you!

Hope all goes well for ya.

See ya up!

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Re: Advice needed on new rig, got a tax rebate coming 😆
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2017, 09:47:06 AM »
 It all depends on your budget. In general if your near $1000 go Intel. Below that consider AMD. Get the best Nvidia card you can afford. If you work on your computer often and have the room go with a full size case. Better cooling. Easier to work on.