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Offline Wiley

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2017, 05:42:00 PM »
Code it so if you bail or crash an undamaged aircraft outside out a friendly radar ring the ENY penalty takes place.

So... punish the incompetent.  It's not uncommon in a stallfight on the deck to crash without getting shot.

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2017, 05:44:10 PM »
So... punish the incompetent.  It's not uncommon in a stallfight on the deck to crash without getting shot.

Wiley.

I thought we were talking about bombers here?
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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2017, 05:45:37 PM »
I thought we were talking about bombers here?

Oh, ok.  In that case, what prevents him from flying through ack, getting hit, then crashing?

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2017, 05:46:47 PM »
I really don't think it's a matter of being worried about personal score or avoiding combat, I just don't think people want to fly an additional 20-40 minutes after dropping their load.


That is not my experience.  90% of the time I have climbed and been in position to intercept buffs before they drop.  The last time a guy bailed is a perfectly average encounter for me, when on Monday at 30k, a buff is about 5 minutes from his drop when I obtain Icon range on his dead high 12 and the instant that happens, poof he bails.


I do not want players to be shamed for bailing, but know this.  I film every sortie and when you bail on me I review the film and I know who you were.  I don't PM you about it in the game or here on the boards.  You, (the bailer) know you did it, and I know you did it.  In my opinion it's poor sportsmanship and that's how I will think of you for a long, long time.  Should you pass away and your people are fondly reminiscing about you, I shall be silent and remember you as this type of person.
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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2017, 05:51:38 PM »
Oh, ok.  In that case, what prevents him from flying through ack, getting hit, then crashing?

Wiley.

Re-read my suggestion.  I said bailing or crashing undamaged aircraft.
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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2017, 05:54:00 PM »

That is not my experience.  90% of the time I have climbed and been in position to intercept buffs before they drop.  The last time a guy bailed is a perfectly average encounter for me, when on Monday at 30k, a buff is about 5 minutes from his drop when I obtain Icon range on his dead high 12 and the instant that happens, poof he bails.


I do not want players to be shamed for bailing, but know this.  I film every sortie and when you bail on me I review the film and I know who you were.  I don't PM you about it in the game or here on the boards.  You, (the bailer) know you did it, and I know you did it.  In my opinion it's poor sportsmanship and that's how I will think of you for a long, long time.  Should you pass away and your people are fondly reminiscing about you, I shall be silent and remember you as this type of person.

In my personal experience when I bomb and bail it's because I don't feel like flying back all that way when I can be back in action with enter three times.

The only thing I can think of that would deter me from doing that is the ENY penalty.
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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2017, 07:16:27 PM »
Re-read my suggestion.  I said bailing or crashing undamaged aircraft.

Exactly. How does it improve the situation if he suicides after being intentionally pinged by ack?

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2017, 07:46:15 PM »

That is not my experience.  90% of the time I have climbed and been in position to intercept buffs before they drop.  The last time a guy bailed is a perfectly average encounter for me, when on Monday at 30k, a buff is about 5 minutes from his drop when I obtain Icon range on his dead high 12 and the instant that happens, poof he bails.


I do not want players to be shamed for bailing, but know this.  I film every sortie and when you bail on me I review the film and I know who you were.  I don't PM you about it in the game or here on the boards.  You, (the bailer) know you did it, and I know you did it.  In my opinion it's poor sportsmanship and that's how I will think of you for a long, long time.  Should you pass away and your people are fondly reminiscing about you, I shall be silent and remember you as this type of person.

In the old days "shaming" is what worked and did away.... some what of this lame type of paly. Of course back then people had class, honor, and pride in doing well. Players didnt want to get a poor reputation and when called out for lame play soon learned not to.

Today most people play and have learned that they can hide behind their computer screens and dont care about a reputation. If it gets bad enough to bother them, they just change their name and start over again. No class, no honor, no pride in playing a game well.

My have the times changed.

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2017, 08:08:36 PM »
Easy solution and that's to give kills to the closest person in icon range when someone bails without damage.   

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2017, 08:27:02 PM »
Easy solution and that's to give kills to the closest person in icon range when someone bails without damage.

That doesn't solve the problem.  I BOMB AND BAIL sometimes.  I could care less about getting killed instead of captured.  When I bomb and bail, it's because I just flew an hour to someone's city and I don't feel like flying all the way back when I can just hit enter three times and be back in the air with a fresh set of ords in seconds.

The only deterrent for someone like me is would be penalizing my gameplay ability, ie ENY restrictions across the board for a set period of time.  If there was a fair way to make that happen, and I knew I was going to be stuck with a ENY 25 + ride for the next 60 minutes of game time I likely wouldn't bomb and bail.  Actually I don't mind flying ENY 25 planes, so it likely wouldn't stop me, but it might stop others =)
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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2017, 09:15:55 PM »
It really doesn't bother me anymore. If they do not want to learn how to fly a bomber and defend it then there is nothing you can do about it. There is also no way they will improve or affect any other teams game play at all. The place they bomb, and probably miss, will be fully up before they clear the chute. LOLOLOLOLOL
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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2017, 09:25:23 PM »
It really doesn't bother me anymore. If they do not want to learn how to fly a bomber and defend it then there is nothing you can do about it. There is also no way they will improve or affect any other teams game play at all. The place they bomb, and probably miss, will be fully up before they clear the chute. LOLOLOLOLOL

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2017, 09:34:37 PM »
Hard to miss a strat.

Not if they're bailing before the drop because its defended by an intuitive fighter jock.

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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2017, 10:06:22 PM »
Okay...Award kills to closest enemy fighter, I mean that's a no brainer IMO, but it will hardly have an impact on BnB.
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Re: Bombing and bailing becomming more popular.
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2017, 12:06:24 AM »
It seems its become "socially" acceptible to bomb and bail these days.

What is going on?

You are spamming this forum with stupid whining posts.
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