Could this run AH3?

[Delirium]

Could this system run AH3?
At what settings?
Is it worthwhile updating the video card, as it may be my only strange point?

My PSU is a Thermaltake 850watt Toughpower.  https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/Thermaltake-Toughpower-850W-Power-Supply-Review

Thanks in advance!


DxDiag
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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/29/2017, 18:49:31
       Machine name: LIGHTNING
   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.150316-1654)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: OEM
       System Model: OEM
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
             Memory: 12288MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 12280MB RAM
          Page File: 3607MB used, 20948MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GTX 760
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1187&SUBSYS_27683842&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 4095 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 3072 MB
      Shared Memory: 1023 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (59Hz)
       Monitor Name: SyncMaster 2433BW/2433GW,SyncMaster Magic CX2433BW/CX2433GW(Digital)
      Monitor Model: SyncMaster
         Monitor Id: SAM0467
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1200(p) (59.950Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 21.21.0013.7878 (English)
     Driver Version: 21.21.13.7878
        DDI Version: 11
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 2/23/2017 06:34:39, 16399408 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
  Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-52C7-11CF-3445-65071BC2D835}
          Vendor ID: 0x10DE
          Device ID: 0x1187
          SubSys ID: 0x27683842
        Revision ID: 0x00A1
 Driver Strong Name: oem78.inf:NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section024:21.21.13.7878:pci\ven_10de&dev_1187
     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
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       D3D9 Overlay: Supported
            DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00231102&REV_00
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0230.0004 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 3/1/2014 03:55:20, 689048 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
         
AND SO ON.

Thanks in advance!

[The Fugitive]

Download it and try it. My CPU is a bit better, but my video is a bit older and I run with pretty much everything maxed out and run 60 FPS steady.

A 1060 video card is under $200 and is a good card that runs the game very well. The new card draw less power so your powersupply is more than enough.

[Delirium]

The CPU I have is ready to overclock, I've gotten it up to 3.7 on air (4.2 at the max). Considering the price of those chips, I don't mind doing it now and replacing the chip if it cooks within the next year or so.

[The Fugitive]

Mines a 3.5 and the video is a 670. The game loads the graphics card more so than the CPU so I think you'd be ok with what you have. Even the video card you have would be ok with just a few things turned down/off.... shadows and environment slider. For all the bells an whistles you most likely could get by with just the graphics card upgrade.

Like I said, download the new version and load it up. Add all the bells and whistles and see where it runs. 

[Bizman]

I'd say yes, since you can overclock your CPU past 3 GHz. That will make the GPU the weakest link. However, knowing that HiTech used a GTX660 for coding your 760 should do relatively fine, 30 to 60 FPS on a 1080p screen.

I used to have a Radeon HD6970 which ranks a quite a lot weaker than neither of those and AH3 ran reasonably well. The PassMark scores for the three are about 3500-4000-5000, yours scoring highest. Environment slider to zero and shadows off, not to mention about the cinematic camera lens glares and such which only look good on video.

[JunkyII]

Until just recently I was running Aces High with minimal graphics on a system with half of that.

[Brooke]

Seems like it would work fine. Works fine on a $350 computer system plus $112 graphics card for me.

[TequilaChaser]

Good Morning Del,

regarding your DXDIAG report you posted above for your system:

DxDiag
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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/29/2017, 18:49:31
       Machine name: LIGHTNING
   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.150316-1654)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: OEM
       System Model: OEM
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
            Memory: 12288MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 12280MB RAM
          Page File: 3607MB used, 20948MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11

First off, was this report done from a fresh bootup of your PC?

2nd: Your Pagefile used is extremely High for a windows 7 Ult SP1 x64 OS.... you are roughly 2.4 GB to 2.7 GB or more to large here.... you should have around 34 to 52 max processes running   go visit www.blackviper.com and check out his Windows 7 OS tweaks page, lot of Correct and excellent info and tips there

3rd: looking at your System Ram, I notice that your pagefile size is 20 GB +, but your System Memory is 12 GB+....... does that system have one of those Triple Channel DIMM setups or are you down a 4 GB stick? this makes me wonder what is exactly going on or what type of system Ram and quantity you are running

4th: I would not overclock it no more than 3.4 GHz to 3.5 GHz... anything more is just overkill to be honest

5th: a decent 1060 6 GB VC would seriously boost your overall performance along with the tweaking and cleaning up that Win 7 Ult OS

hope this helps Del,

TC / Johnny

[Gman]

I have a few repurposed old gaming systems serving as home theater boxes now, and a couple of them are of similar capability to that system Del, and run AH3 fine with some settings adjustment.

+whatever for the 1060.

HardwareCanuks up here recently did a test with the 1080ti and an 8700k new system, and a 2600k 6+ year old CPU/MB with the same 1080ti.  The difference in FPS is so minimal that it's almost laughable, in a large percentage of games, resolutions/settings/etc.  It's a GPU world, and for $200 as others said, that system with a 1060 would last years still.

[Delirium]

My PSU can handle a 1060?

[oboe]

My PSU can handle a 1060?

Absolutely.  That 850 PSU could handle a 1080Ti.   

[TequilaChaser]

My PSU can handle a 1060?

Most definitely

I actually am using 3 PSU S nearly identical to your same model posted.... They can handle a 1080ti

[TequilaChaser]

LOL

[Gman]

No trouble there Del, you could run 1060 SLI, heck probably 3 of them, easily, with that PSU. 

IMO if you're planning on sticking with this system for a while, and have $200 to spare, grab a 1060.  Check your local/state "buy sell" online resources, I pick off so much hardware up here in sparsely populated Canada, all kinds of HOTAS/Monitors/etc for incredible deals, I'm sure you'll be able to find some similar ones and save a lot of $ on a good used 1060. 

Just as an example, here is a like new 1060 here on a site I frequently use, for $155 USD, and that was just 10 seconds of searching, not really digging for a good deal on one, I've seen them as low as $130 USD recently.   https://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-components/city-of-toronto/zotac-geforce-gtx1060-6gb-ddr5-video-card/1309434579

IMO - put a 1060 in that system, you'll be GTG for years in this game, and others.

[Delirium]

Since I am probably going to stick with this machine for Aces High, or at least I will pass it on to my son to play, is it worth considering getting something better like a 1080? Or is my machine not going to benefit from it in light of the older CPU?