what is the best of the best anti virus program???

[Ciaphas]

As of Outlook 2007, MS ditched IE as its rendering engine to prevent the pre-loading of images, files and code that could be harmful to the end-users system. So, why would Outlook pre-load attachments in word that posed the same security risks as IE. That's kind of counter productive.

I may be misunderstanding you but what I gather is this:

New email delivered to inbox, Outlook pre-loaded the corrupt PNG, havoc ensued and you fixed it. Is that the basic flow of the situation? If that is the basic flow, depending on the version of Outlook you were using, it logically can't happen, unless you were using an older version of Outlook with IE as its render Engine.

There is a chance that we are also in the same book but on different pages, which quite possible with these topics.

Cheers,
Dave

[Vulcan]

New email delivered to inbox, Outlook pre-loaded the corrupt PNG, havoc ensued and you fixed it. Is that the basic flow of the situation? If that is the basic flow, depending on the version of Outlook you were using, it logically can't happen, unless you were using an older version of Outlook with IE as its render Engine.

There is a chance that we are also in the same book but on different pages, which quite possible with these topics.

Cheers,
Dave

Havoc didn't ensue as the PC I was running it on was for testing Cylance, which shut down the malware. You are confusing displaying an image versus opening the image and rendering it ready for display. This was on Outlook 2016.

I don't really need any advice, I know what happened. If you don't believe it and think you can get by without such security protections that's fine by me. I'm just saying telling other people to do so is not good.

[Ciaphas]

That image only gets copied with original email to the inbox and is never pre-loaded as that goes against basic security protocols. Sorry but that’s just the way it is.


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[Vulcan]

That image only gets copied with original email to the inbox and is never pre-loaded as that goes against basic security protocols. Sorry but that’s just the way it is.


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Sorry but you are wrong. Maybe your are getting confused with embedded attachments versus links.

I've seen it in action, and submitted it to our research team who then released signatures for said malformed PNG (if you google around you will see there have been a few PNG based attacks over the years).

[Ciaphas]

No, not confused, we will just have to agree to disagree on this.




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[Brooke]

You really need next gen AV - something like Sentinel One or Cylance. I believe Web Root and Trend offer this in their consumer versions. Anything not next gen is going to offer little protection.

I tried Trend once and didn't like it.

Web Root looks interesting, but they aren't listed in AV Comparatives.  I'd like to see them tested by some org folks are familiar with, though -- I can't go just on what their web page says (which is very little).

[Vulcan]

I tried Trend once and didn't like it.

Web Root looks interesting, but they aren't listed in AV Comparatives.  I'd like to see them tested by some org folks are familiar with, though -- I can't go just on what their web page says (which is very little).

None of the Next Gen AV platforms are, AVC seem to be avoiding them (eg Cyclance, Sentinel One, Carbon Black etc).

[Brooke]

Some of them they probably can't do -- some are not usable at all by home users (or even any small business without an IT department to administer it).

They do cover Trend Micro.

Web Root has a home version.  I wish that would be on there.

[Vulcan]

I think Webroot has a free trial. I might give it a spin soon, my malwarebytes freebies have expired 

[Maverick]

I'm running AVAST and paid for the full version. Now the system seems to be slowed down and I get reboot messages on start up every one in a while.

[Bizman]

The full Avast as well as many other paid flagship anti-virus programs are bloatware, IMO.

[Brooke]

I don't know what the paid Avast is like these days, but I like the free Avast just fine.

[Bizman]

I don't know what the paid Avast is like these days, but I like the free Avast just fine.

It does its job within the limitations of being signature based. However, there's some things I'd recommend everyone using it to do. First, do a custom install. This can be done afterwards, too, through Windows Programs and Features or whatever they now call it. So: In the Modify screen, start by choosing "Minimum protection". File, Behaviour and Web Shields are the ones you need, Mail shield too if you use an e-mail client program instead of webmail. Browser security extension sounds like a good idea, too, and the Browser Cleanup tool can help to get rid of unwanted add-ons. Wi-Fi inspector if you use Wi-Fi, maybe. Game Mode for not getting intrusive pop-ups during AH. Doing that prevents Avast from informing that you have this and that wrong with your computer, suggesting you buy another feature. Adding to that putting your favourite games into the Exclusion lists can help. Notice that you'll have to check these after every major version update!