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Offline SAJ73

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Refuelling + +
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:03:44 AM »
I was thinking we should have a few extra features to the refuel pad, such as resetting the WEP and also a option for a repairs check box.
So that refuelling works as normal, but if one choose to add repairs the time one would have to sit on the pad increases accordingly to the amount of repairs added from the damage list.

It would be so much better to be able to keep the number of sorties down if one chooses to do so, or just up a fresh plane if one chooses that.

Or to be even more realistic about it, you would have to park the plane inside a hangar to be able to open the repairs menu, instead of using the refuel pad.

I mean, if you are able to bring the bird home battled and bruised and manage to land it without crashing it should be only fair to be able to hand it over to the mechanic.
Maybe if it is really battered and missing half the controlsurfaces it would have to sit on the ground for an hour to fix it, but atleast one would have the choice to not end sortie.

Atleast the WEP reset we could have added, I find it frustrating to have to up a new plane everytime the wep is gone, especially if it is a perfectly fine plane in every other way. If it takes 30 sec to refuel, and say 60 or 90 sec for a wep reset ontop of that?

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 09:24:53 AM »
Yep this would be fun.

I would bring a bomb just to bomb the repair hanger when there are planes inside  :evil:

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 09:31:39 AM »
Yep this would be fun.

I would bring a bomb just to bomb the repair hanger when there are planes inside  :evil:

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 09:38:52 AM »
It would prefereably be a indestructable hangar, for just this reason.


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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 09:45:35 AM »
... it should be only fair to be able to hand it over to the mechanic.

When you end sortie that is what you are basically doing. You have the option to fly with the damage, if the plane can still fly. If the plane can't fly, there is no miracle minute Band-Aid.  Take the point bonus you receive from bringing a broken bird home and up a fresh bird. ;)

Now, if you were to suggest changing fuel options and load-out options on the rearm pad ....

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 09:57:23 AM »
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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 09:58:45 AM »




Now, if you were to suggest changing fuel options and load-out options on the rearm pad ....

Yes, that too. I have many times wanted to simply land to change my load-out for continuing my mission.
So that should be added to my wish also.

Regarding the repairs it might be too much to ask for, but atleast the wep issue I know there are several others that would back me up on.

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 09:59:51 AM »
Not a fan of repair, but I would be in favor of WEP reset.

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 10:20:24 AM »
As someone who uses WEP as it's intended purpose (emergency power), I rarely ever run out in a fight.  Most planes already will build it back, but it also has to do with the heat on the engine as I recall.  One thing I do while on the rearm pad is shut my engine down giving it time to cool back down a bit.  Not sure if it actually helps, or is just something I misunderstood and do for no reason.   :headscratch:
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 10:41:01 AM »
Maybe minor repairs such as a damaged gun, fuel leak, radiator hit, ect


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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 10:45:16 AM »
You can still destroy objects inside the indestructible with a bomb.  Splash damage still effects everything around it.  Just that object is indestructible, nothing inside it is safe.   :old:

this is what I was hinting at :)

just make the time longer for each broken thing on the plane. 45 sec per broken part or so.
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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2018, 10:46:27 AM »
As someone who uses WEP as it's intended purpose (emergency power), I rarely ever run out in a fight.  Most planes already will build it back, but it also has to do with the heat on the engine as I recall.  One thing I do while on the rearm pad is shut my engine down giving it time to cool back down a bit.  Not sure if it actually helps, or is just something I misunderstood and do for no reason.   :headscratch:

After a few sorties wap usually runs out and does not replenish. Had it happen a few times in the past.
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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2018, 10:58:17 AM »
As someone who uses WEP as it's intended purpose (emergency power), I rarely ever run out in a fight.  Most planes already will build it back, but it also has to do with the heat on the engine as I recall.  One thing I do while on the rearm pad is shut my engine down giving it time to cool back down a bit.  Not sure if it actually helps, or is just something I misunderstood and do for no reason.   :headscratch:
I never use wep unless I am in a fight and pressured to use it as a means to stay alive or keep the pressure up in the fight. I usually fly the P51D, and if the fight drags out as it often does I often find myself out of wep way before I am out of fuel and bullets. And as I have been told, once the wep is out it's out. I know you can make it work for a shorter period a couple of times after it shuts down the first time, but I don't think it recharges itself after engine cooldown? I have asked around if it does and I've been told it does not.

If it actually builds up after a cooldown my initial wish here falls apart, and I wish I had actually tested how that works myself instead of just relying on the answers others gave me when I asked around.

I have tried to trottle down cruise for ahwile in hopes of getting a fresh wep, but it did not do much as I have noticed. And also during refuelling I too shut down the engine, often even going afk for a few mins. But I always end up short of wep.

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 11:31:24 AM »
It used to just build up/cool down on timers but now it's got a maximum duration since AH3.

Here's everything converted to minutes.  There's a little flakiness in the formatting but the info's there.

Plane   Time On   Time Off   Total Time
p51d   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
109k4   10.1010101   10.1010101   42.83333333
spit9   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
b17g   5.050505051   16.66666667   0
c47a   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
la5fn   10.1010101   10.1010101   10
n1k2   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
190a8   10.1010101   20.2020202   20
c205   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
f4u1d   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
b26b   5.050505051   16.66666667   0
b26b   10.1010101   10.1010101   42.83333333
109g2   10.1010101   10.1010101   42.83333333
109g6   10.1010101   10.1010101   42.83333333
f4u1c   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
spit5   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
p38l   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
c202   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
typhoon   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
190a5   10.1010101   20.2020202   20
yak9u   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
a6m5b   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
p47d30   5.050505051   10.1010101   15
p47d25   5.050505051   10.1010101   15
ju88a4   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
lanc3   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
f6f5   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
tbm3   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
seafire   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
tempest   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
ar234   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
ta152h   9.98003992   5.005005005   40
190f8   10.1010101   20.2020202   20
la7   10.1010101   10.1010101   10
yak9t   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
190d9   9.98003992   5.005005005   40
p51b   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
p47d11   5.050505051   10.1010101   15
ki611c   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
il23   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
me262   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
f4u1   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
f4u4   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
hurri2c   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
hurri2d   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
mossie6   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
ki67   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
110c4   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
spit1   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
1.09E+06   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
hurri1   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
110g2   10.1010101   10.1010101   42.83333333
spit14   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
boston3   5.050505051   16.66666667   0
f4f4   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
fm2   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
a20g   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
d3a1   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
sbd5   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
a6m2   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
p40e   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
p40c   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   10
me163   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
ju87d3   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
b5n2   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
ki84   1.500150015   0.750075008   10
b24j   5.050505051   16.66666667   0
p38g   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
p38j   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
p47n   5.050505051   10.1010101   15
109g14   10.1010101   10.1010101   42.83333333
spit8   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
spit16   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
rv8   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
f4u1a   5.050505051   10.1010101   8
b25c   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
b25h   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
p39d   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
p39q   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
i16   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
b239   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
p47m   5.050505051   10.1010101   15
dr1   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
f2b   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
camel   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
dvii   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
mossi16   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
g4m1   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
b29   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
a6m3   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
p40f   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
p40n   5.050505051   10.1010101   10
fi156   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
me410   10.1010101   10.1010101   42.83333333
ju87g2   #DIV/0!   #DIV/0!   0
seahurr   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
he111   5.050505051   16.66666667   10
ki43   1.500150015   0.750075008   10
yak3   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
yak7b   5.050505051   10.1010101   0
tu2s   10.1010101   10.1010101   10

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Re: Refuelling + +
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2018, 12:29:48 PM »
Wow, very cool Wiley. Never seen this list, but now that you mention it I do recall there was infact a wep cooldown function in AH2. I was away from AH for about the last 3-4 years of AH2, and came back after AH3 was introduced. There is alot of game features I have forgotten, but things are coming back gradually. :)
I knew the wep used to be better than the one we have today! Thanks again Wiley for bringing this into the light. :)

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