Mossy Bombing Feature

[Slade]

JVLees and I witnessed a set of Mossys (AKA three mossys) approach a CV at about 12-15k.  I turned the CV in ample time.  Next one Mossy broke off and dove on the CV and bombed it then ...rejoined the set.

I did not think that was possible.  How does one do that?

[Mongoose]

JVLees and I witnessed a set of Mossys (AKA three mossys) approach a CV at about 10-15k.  I turned the CV in ample time.  Next one Mossy broke off and dove on the CV and bombed it then ...rejoined the set.

I did not think that was possible.  How does one do that?

 A recording would help.  My guess would be either three players in formation, or one player who knows the limits of how far he can get from his drones without losing them.

[Slade]

Thanks for the post.

Really did not look like three individuals.  Lead plane dove.

Wow that is some limit but kudos to the Mossy for knowing how to exploit it.

EDIT: I'll add this. He did not do a sustained deep dive so I think you are correct in the Mossy knowing what ever that altitude or distance way from drones can be.  It was significant though.

EDIT 2: The dive was so deep that I followed him down in my F6.

[Slade]

I wonder too if it can only be done in Mossys or if they simply can perform the exploit better than say a Lanc.

[mike8318]

If there were 3 individuals there would have been 3 icons.

[Slade]

If there were 3 individuals there would have been 3 icons.

There was one icon.  In fact I tracked it for a sector to intercept him seeing his probably target of the CV.

Great observation. 


Hey I'm not whining or being negative.  I am simply asking how he did it - not judging him.  I also believe obscure techniques should be brought into the light where everyone can do them if they want.

I thought also it could be "time".  How long until the bomber rejoins the drones that is.

[Greebo]

I wonder too if it can only be done in Mossys or if they simply can perform the exploit better than say a Lanc.

I'd guess a Mossie or an Ar 234 would be the best for this maneuver simply due to their ability to zoom back up to the formation quicker.

[RODBUSTR]

     Mk16 drones  don't get very far from master plane before being lost.   I have seen B26 Tu2s and B29 drones miles away miles  from master plane. and keep flying.

[bozon]

What would be the point in such a move? The drone's bomb will land miles away from the bomb of the diver. You don't take 2 gunless Moss16 drones for protection. So?

The guy did nothing except risk the drone worth of perks. Does not sound like someone who knows what he is doing.

[wil3ur]

What I want to know how to do is get your two drones that are trailing well behind the lead buff to instantly jump back into formation with all guns blazing when the minute you start your run.

I've seen many buff pilots who are able to get their drones warping back and forth including into positions in front of their lead buff.  Then I see many normal drones, so I'm thinking either there's a lag issue (fiber on my end), or a known exploit in how the drones operate that certain individuals have figured out how to take advantage of.   

[Slade]

The guy did nothing except risk the drone worth of perks. Does not sound like someone who knows what he is doing.

He executed it with great precision.  It was clear to me and JVLees he had mastered this technique.

[Rodent57]

Did you see more than one example of it Slade?   or was it an isolated event?

I find it fascinating.  Not sure of the utility, but that doesn't mean someone else hasn't figured out a reason to do it.

[Chalenge]

There are a couple of things that might be in play here. First is that your front end might not see the drones in the same position as the guy in the Mossy. Second (and I hesitate to share this, but here goes), if you drop gear after a zoom, and then turn sharply, then your drones will (used to at least) stay with you. I think it has something to do with engaging the landing profile, but speed is important. If you are too fast then your gear will break. Third, once the dive is initiated (gear up) the drones will lag in trail and hold altitude slightly above somewhat from the pilots point-of-view. Anyone watching might think he is about to lose his drones, but when he zooms back up it appears he just rejoins, whereas on his front end they only lagged.

This from my observations resulting from many, many attacks on slippery bomber pilots.

[ccvi]

Don't wait for drones to return to you, return to your drones. At some distance drones still exist but won't make it home without help.

Useful for defensive moves (heavy maneuvering of the lead ship, and drones probably act weird on the other end), or to dive bomb GVs in between level drops on other stuff (usually the wrong order of destruction, so it's mostly useless).

[Slade]

Did you see more than one example of it Slade? 

One yesterday.  This time with B-25s.  I think the gent in the Mossy pulled it off better though.

I was able to detect it earlier that that was his intention (to pull off this maneuver) and I think inhibited it a bit.  Everyone's feedback here helped me understand it better.

Thanks