How can this be put nicely?

[JunkyII]

Am I to understand this is yet another thread about the displeasure of people running M3s to resup rather than upping from a capped field only to be vulched picked hoed ganged up on and die before getting up off the runway? Then the horde wonders why no one is upping to promote air combat? Or have I misunderstood ?? IMHO if you are actually trying to take the base anything goes to prevent defenders from getting to town to kill the troops... The same goes for defending which includes M3 resup missions when upping aircraft only results in instant death and score padding.. Sometimes the enemy doesn't want the base only wants to furball which is fine if they let you up

The problem is people aren't upping a defense against an attack in the first place...they are going right to an M3.

You've seen me plenty of times getting vulched (repeatedly) to defend a field...not asking anyone to do something I wouldn't do.

[JunkyII]

When a base is being horded and one dies multiple times, and the only other alternative is to up from  different base, only to arrive at a newly captured base, you think I shouldn't get in an M3? Please pay my damned subscription then. You want me to play your way? pay me.

As of right now you should....but that shouldnt be the way the game is played....we should see red dar or a base flashing from GVs and up to defend before they have horded the base...right now M3 makes you nerds lazy.

Oh and like to point out...we used to not have M3 resupply and you never heard me say crap about it until I came back and noticed it.

[JunkyII]

At no time now or ever will 100% of the player base be happy with the way the game is played or with the aircraft and vehicles.. Whatever hitech ads , modify or removes will make some happy and some mad.. M3 is a tool and if people want to use it instead of fighters so what it's their dime... The more I hear it bugs people the more I want to use it.. You cannot control what when and how people want to use what's in the hanger

Them using M3s effects others....which makes others have to go against what they would normally use in the hangar....your argument doesnt work...whats the base model of the game...combat simulator, using m3s to counter an air attack isn't combat...it's cowardice in a video game....using a whirbel???? THATS COMBAT

[The Fugitive]

Hes not wrong. Airplanes make up a huge percentage of the sorties in Aces High over GVs...P51 being used the most followed by the Spit16 I believe, that may have changed....look at Snails mega thread...heck he's probably already showed it after Violators comment

Well he said this....

"Statistics prove that most people in AH enjoy the fighter air combat more than anything else. "

How many of the pony numbers are players using it as a bomb truck? His #1 belief is that the vast majority of players want to fight in fighters A2A, and that is just wrong. It may have been in the old, old days, but it hasn't been that way for a long time. Even back in the hey day we had mega squads that spent all their time grabbing base. Sure they would fight for them, but it was only a "means to an end". Now they grab the bases without fighting for them.

[scott66]

Junky .. How many times have you and others played paddle wheel with my lil butt from me trying to up and defend a base?? M3 is not my first line of defense and most times it's not even a viable one unless I want to make 12 trips I'm one of only a handful that are truckers as bul1dog2 likes to call us... If defenders has enough defenders then some will up from a close base and drive the cappers away to take pressure off that base so others can up to get to town. If defenders organized and have numbers. . That makes for a hell of a fight m3 needed

[JunkyII]

you really think that lol you do know that people have nurfed the M3 in gameplay right now by taking out the spawning vh right?? And yet here we are.. You can't get any more nerfed than not being able to up one and yet you still don't have enough air targets? Hmm I guess no M3s at all still didn't fix your problem

Oh so a bunch of random players have to have a coordinated attack on a V base and an airfield in order to take a field....BUT you were complainging about hordes which is why you up M3s....the average players would need a horde to accomplish that task...please keep making arguments which counter your own...makes me look smart.

[scott66]

Oh so a bunch of random players have to have a coordinated attack on a V base and an airfield in order to take a field....BUT you were complainging about hordes which is why you up M3s....the average players would need a horde to accomplish that task...please keep making arguments which counter your own...makes me look smart.

a horde of one heavy fighter? Or 4.. Now you're making me look smart

[JunkyII]

Junky .. How many times have you and others played paddle wheel with my lil butt from me trying to up and defend a base?? M3 is not my first line of defense and most times it's not even a viable one unless I want to make 12 trips I'm one of only a handful that are truckers as bul1dog2 likes to call us... If defenders has enough defenders then some will up from a close base and drive the cappers away to take pressure off that base so others can up to get to town. If defenders organized and have numbers. . That makes for a hell of a fight m3 needed

You don't use it first scott but I've seen countless times where we fly to a field and the only ENEMY we see is an M3 running supps....and we posted about the attack prior to going to the field on 200.....the issue is M3 resupply should be a reaction after a solid defense has been made, it shouldn't be the defense itself.

[scott66]

And don't confuse complaining with observing I never complain about being capped I adept adjust and overcome which might mean in M3

[JunkyII]

a horde of one heavy fighter? Or 4.. Now you're making me look smart

Coordinated as in theres 4 hitting a V base adjacent to the airfield you want to take so another lets say 5 hitting the other airfield to get town down and run troops so 9 which yep when there's 90 people online I'd call 10% of the population a horde yes...

[JunkyII]

And don't confuse complaining with observing I never complain about being capped I adept adjust and overcome which might mean in M3

I up and fly against hordes all the time heck I'm literally making a video right now of me flying against like 5 enemy alone....people who are afraid to up a fighter at a capped field so they run M3s are calling me a cry baby while they are the ones afraid to die in a game...who's the one crying?

[scott66]

So nerf the sups back to 3 min like the old days... Will that make you and fugi happy?

[scott66]

Coordinated as in theres 4 hitting a V base adjacent to the airfield you want to take so another lets say 5 hitting the other airfield to get town down and run troops so 9 which yep when there's 90 people online I'd call 10% of the population a horde yes...

well then my friend.. Your problem isn't the M3 it's numbers

[scott66]

I'll tell you what junky I'll be logged in probably another 140 miles I'll show you how to hit strats drop vh when I get to Simi valley

[scott66]

The strats are vital for both defence and taking of bases..49ers knew this and made it mission one to hit our strats hard... If I'm checking down time on guns or town and I see it's going to be down for 116 min you think I'm going to resup that base? By myself... No then it's no longer defending I want is blood... I'm in a Dora from a close base and I'm killing everything I see but I'm staying high and bnz my butt off until the base is lost then I'm running my butt off while all the cappers land their kills at their new base that I plugged the toilet in the oclub at