Design discussion for Fjord Fury (June 2018 Scenario)

[Brooke]

I think you take the two COs, hash out the design with them, post it

This is about to happen imminently.  The two CO's like this one -- we are just figuring out how to tweak a couple of numbers given the feedback that folks think the Lancs are too weak.

[Brooke]

Perd, I hear you.  I feel similarly, it's just that I think a lot of planes can nearly as easily get one pass and then kill a lanc in that pass.  So, while I do think the 152 is the best plane at 30k in this setup, I don't think that having a small number of them will be ruinous if the other numbers are set OK.

[Brooke]

OK, folks.

The Scenario Team just finished conferring on the numbers.

We unanimously -- including Ditto, CO of the axis side -- picked E.  Adding two P-51B's and subtracting two 152's is how we'll do it.

Thank you, everyone, for your input on Lancs and numbers.

[Vudu15]

Here goes.

I think the best move would be to go back to the drawing board.  This one seems to be pushing away the scenario regulars who are in smaller and smaller numbers to begin with.

I think you take the two COs, hash out the design with them, post it, and restart the run up to the event so there is time to get people involved and invested.

I hate to say it, but scenarios are why I still play and I’m doing what i can to talk myself into caring about this one, but it feels flawed and rushed and I’m worried about the impact on what I see as an already struggling scenario community in AH

 

[perdue3]

OK, folks.

The Scenario Team just finished conferring on the numbers.

We unanimously -- including Ditto, CO of the axis side -- picked E.  Adding two P-51B's and subtracting two 152's is how we'll do it.

Thank you, everyone, for your input on Lancs and numbers.

That makes it 44 vs. 30. Ouch. We are good, but maybe not that good.

I wish I could help the Axis in this one, but I am afraid summer Saturday evenings are not well spent behind a computer screen. I wish you all the best Ditto 

[Wiley]

That makes it 44 vs. 30.

   

Right.

Wiley.

[Brooke]

This one has 28 attacking (RAF) fighters vs. 30 defending (LW) fighters.

Our ratio of (attacking fighters)/(defending fighters) -- call it "A/D" -- is comfortably within the range of past scenarios and, in fact, is lower than some past frames.

We have A/D = 0.93.  Here is an assortment of actual A/D's from the past:

Der Grosse Schlag II, frame 2:  1.04
Battle Over the Winter Line, frame 3:  1.03
Target Rabaul, frame 3:  1.04
Med. Maelstrom, frame 3:  0.83
Battle Over Germany, frame 2:  0.87
Final Battle, frame 2:  0.88
Battle of Britain 2013, frame 2:  1.03
Battle of Britain 2008, frame 3:  1.33
Road to Rangoon, frame 2:  0.89

So, A/D seems in the range of typical.

Now, if you guys want the allies to reduce the number of Lancasters -- even though we just got done talking about how they were doomed -- let me know.

However, we probably will not end up with all 16 lanc positions filled every frame.

[Brooke]

I wish I could help the Axis in this one, but I am afraid summer Saturday evenings are not well spent behind a computer screen. I wish you all the best Ditto 

Thank you, Perd.

Even though you can't fly in it (although maybe there is a rainy day on one of the Saturdays), if you want to participate in the axis forum, that's fine with me.  It's Ditto's call as CO, but if it were me, I'd welcome you to participate on the side forum.

[Dace]

Here goes.

I think the best move would be to go back to the drawing board.  This one seems to be pushing away the scenario regulars who are in smaller and smaller numbers to begin with.

I think you take the two COs, hash out the design with them, post it, and restart the run up to the event so there is time to get people involved and invested.

I hate to say it, but scenarios are why I still play and I’m doing what i can to talk myself into caring about this one, but it feels flawed and rushed and I’m worried about the impact on what I see as an already struggling scenario community in AH

QFT

[KCDitto]

The Lancs are DOOMED and yet they are the first unit to get completely filled       

Hey,

I know it is not historical, I know it has planes that were not there, But there it is.

NOW

Recruit, Plan

[perdue3]

Ditto,

Had it not been in June for four Saturdays, I could have probably mustered up some über 152 and K$ sticks. Most of KN cannot participate, though. However, June 2 looks promising (no plans yet) for a walk-on slot for an hour. Maybe someone could use a K$ stick in their ranks.

[Brooke]

Sweet! 

[Zimme83]

I am missing the attack mossies though.

[KCDitto]

 

[Bruv119]

Ditto,

Had it not been in June for four Saturdays, I could have probably mustered up some über 152 and K$ sticks. Most of KN cannot participate, though. However, June 2 looks promising (no plans yet) for a walk-on slot for an hour. Maybe someone could use a K$ stick in their ranks.

Suck it up and fly or the pride of the Kreigsmarine will be a very expensive coral reef.   Very few K$ pilots registered so far, guessing ya'll think this will be easy huh.  Got to be in it to win it.