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Offline bustr

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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2018, 12:27:34 PM »
The 88 traverse sound appears to be a looped best estimate sound of some kind of hand gear rotating a large object around a lubed pinon. Exactly what you see in the maintenance manual for the 88. Wonder if some museum in Texas has an 88 and allowed HTC to rotate it? Always thought the wheel break noise would get this treatment since it sounds exactly like a time I had to drag a load of defunct washing machines across a concrete pad by hand. And then the 88 when it goes off sounds like a tympani player tuning his drum. I have listened to that process.
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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2018, 08:23:40 PM »
So you're a former 88 flak gunner?
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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2018, 08:52:04 PM »
The 88 traverse sound appears to be a looped best estimate sound of some kind of hand gear rotating a large object around a lubed pinon. Exactly what you see in the maintenance manual for the 88. Wonder if some museum in Texas has an 88 and allowed HTC to rotate it? Always thought the wheel break noise would get this treatment since it sounds exactly like a time I had to drag a load of defunct washing machines across a concrete pad by hand. And then the 88 when it goes off sounds like a tympani player tuning his drum. I have listened to that process.

American Aero, New Smyrna Beach, Florida. They have restored tons of these guns.

http://americanaeroservices.com/german-flak-88-cannons/
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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2018, 10:33:01 PM »
Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor not a WW2 German 88mm flak gunner!
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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2018, 01:18:40 AM »
The 88 traverse sound appears to be a looped best estimate sound of some kind of hand gear rotating a large object around a lubed pinon. Exactly what you see in the maintenance manual for the 88. Wonder if some museum in Texas has an 88 and allowed HTC to rotate it? Always thought the wheel break noise would get this treatment since it sounds exactly like a time I had to drag a load of defunct washing machines across a concrete pad by hand. And then the 88 when it goes off sounds like a tympani player tuning his drum. I have listened to that process.

About the 26 second mark you can just hear the rotation sound among the other noises for about a second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCNrIgCA8v0

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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2018, 05:50:05 AM »
  No but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2018, 06:16:58 AM »
I can post the sound, but it would spoil things. The way the game is right now the turrets are always powered. If we could have events set for unpowered turrets, then we could add "multisounds" for powered and unpowered (plus polyphony and 3D offsets). The 88mm is obviously unpowered, but there are a few tanks that have manual cranks as well. I would be tempted to use the same sound for all manual turrets, because that is the whole point of FMOD.
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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2018, 07:00:52 AM »
   No but I have experience  tinkering with several types of anti aircraft artillery, armor and work with heavy equipment which has much of the same design and technology that turreted armor does and none sound like that. They are precision instruments.  Keep the troll wagon rolling though... Have a blast.


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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2018, 10:23:06 AM »
American Aero, New Smyrna Beach, Florida. They have restored tons of these guns.

http://americanaeroservices.com/german-flak-88-cannons/


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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2018, 11:37:44 AM »

One phone call and a polite request to record 30sec of traverse sound.
+1 - yep. And ask them to time it how long it takes to traverse 360° ... :p
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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2018, 09:39:33 AM »
We know that.

http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/88mm-antiaircraft-gun/88mm-antiaircraft-gun-introduction.html
Good info there Lyric... still, ours is on the low gear, or SLOW gear. The video I posted shows a MUCH faster transverse rate - guess it depends on how 'motivated' the gun crew is... (i.e. not hung over from previous night, arms not tired from sand bagging or digging latrines, spanking the monkey, that kind of stuff). :D
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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2018, 12:03:34 PM »
Good info there Lyric... still, ours is on the low gear, or SLOW gear. The video I posted shows a MUCH faster transverse rate - guess it depends on how 'motivated' the gun crew is... (i.e. not hung over from previous night, arms not tired from sand bagging or digging latrines, spanking the monkey, that kind of stuff). :D

That was just one part of the entire document.

http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/88mm-antiaircraft-gun/index.html

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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2018, 08:07:01 PM »
  It is not frustration. It is a comment. and It matters not what I state akak will  most likely always dispute it.  Anything with  bearings that are in proper working order don't sound like the turrets  or other precision equipment like the   traverse and elevation controls of a large gun like the Flak 36.

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Re: grease the turrets and larger pivoting weapons
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2018, 08:42:05 PM »
Rod, you're not making sense. What you just said is that the Flak 36 doesn't sound like itself?

Anyway, the sound is, I believe, like many other sounds in the game. It is intended to satisfy more than a single slot for sound. That helps to keep the download size for the game small, and also keeps the game speedy. I am not even close to having all of the sounds finished, and the sound pack size is already getting to be substantial. That is the inevitable consequence of having individual sounds for every gun, vehicle, and aircraft.

If you really don't like the sound just get yourself a copy of FMOD, record some gears going "clack-clack-clack" and make your own sound pack.
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