Time for ENY to go

[Vraciu]

HTC always rolls out the welcome wagon for visiting players. I would encourage anyone near the Dallas metroplex to call ahead and arrange a visit.

Glad to hear there are some new developments down the road. Hopefully Hitech will give us some sneak peaks in the near future.

Yep.  They're gracious as hell even to players who are sometimes a PITA.   

[The Fugitive]

I dont know, I think Id be pretty nervous if I ever got the chance to visit them. 

[flippz]

I dont know, I think Id be pretty nervous if I ever got the chance to visit them. 

can what you say at the office get you muted in game??????

[Crash Orange]

I would love to see an honest answer as to "why" ENY is an issue to you. We have seen hundreds of threads complaining about ENY, but not a single one as to "why".

Do you honestly have an issue of not being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team? Remember, this IS a game and so they do TRY to keep things on the "even" or "fair" side.

Answer the question, Why is ENY so horrible?

If ENY actually reflected the numerical odds people are facing it might be useful. But as long as we have the current setup that will never happen. For whatever reason most of the time it seems 2 of the countries gang up against the 3rd and one front is completely quiet. (Yes, this happens to every side with equal frequency but that doesn't make it any less annoying when it happens to your side.) And then there are all the people in the tower that are AFK for hours at a stretch. The result is you can be facing 3-2 or even 2-1 odds in all your fights AND be restricted to midwar planes. One 190-A5 in a big and more or less evenly matched furball can be fun to fly; one 190-A5 against a bunch of La-7s, 109-K4s, and Spit16s that come in with a huge alt advantage is just suicide. It also robs you of the ability to use CVs to attack because the only plane that can carry a meaningful ord load is the TBM, and a TBM against superior numbers of late war fighters is even MORE suicidal. There's no point in trying and no fun in the attempt.

And 12 hours or 6, the long side switch time works completely at cross purposes with ENY. 6 hours is still longer than most people spend online at a time. It means your side switch is for the rest of the evening even if ENY goes the other way. This happened to me just the other night, I switched from bish to rooks and 2 hours later the rooks had a 20 or so ENY and I was stuck there. It discourages people from switching at the same time ENY is supposed to be encouraging people to switch for balance.

As I said before this is mostly a problem late night. Late night is already a problem with no one doing anything but trying to sneak unopposed bases, which is not all that hard when there are three times as many bases as players. And half the people are in GVs which are completely invisible and just hide when any enemy is around and wait for the opponent to get bored hunting for hay-colored needles in the haystack and go somewhere else. The game is getting close to unplayable late at night. ENY is only a small part of that but still, it is part of the problem, not the solution.

[Vraciu]

can what you say at the office get you muted in game??????

No, but if they like you it can get you unmuted.   

[Shuffler]

can what you say at the office get you muted in game??????

Wear a shirt that says "muted", walk in and just move your mouth.

 

[DREDIOCK]

I would love to see an honest answer as to "why" ENY is an issue to you. We have seen hundreds of threads complaining about ENY, but not a single one as to "why".

Do you honestly have an issue of not being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team? Remember, this IS a game and so they do TRY to keep things on the "even" or "fair" side.

ENY doesnt matter a whole lot to me because I know I can collect my fair share of kills in just about any ride However. I do see how ENY as it is currently implemented can be a problem.

The problem is in part of your answer  "being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team?" This quote isnt always accurate.
Ive seen ENY implemented against a side that was being dominated by the other two. whereas the side that has ENY implemented on may have numbers larger then either of the other two countries it still has far less numbers then both countries combined. And if those two countries gang up on the larger company. Then the side with the ENY effect is put at an even greater disadvantage.
I've always favored an AW zone (for lack of a better description) style approach such as AKAK mentioned above all. Second would be the perk system. Particularly when it comes to bombers as few people even bother to use their bomber perks. This would discourage the use of uber perk consuming rides but not outright ban them. and if you dont have the perks. Well.. it sucks to be you because perks really aren't all that hard to farm. The problem is what you use up your perks on. 262's are sweet rides but the bulk of general population probably kills themselves in them more often then they kill other people as it does require at least a small degree of advanced skill to have any real success with them

[flippz]

This am was a great example of that. Bush totaled 24 players and nits and rooks had 38 combined. I was on for almost two hours and not a single base on the nit rook front flashed. Yet the bish had a 13.9 eny. I watched about 8 bases get rolled as streams of lancs 47m 190d 51d and temps rolled in over the tops of the bases. Not a lot we can do in that manner.

People often complain about what I fly because they choose to fly an early to mid war plane. What they don’t see is the other 90% of there country is flying what I am in. Or the fact that there are very very (maybe count on one hand) few people left in the game that will 1v1 in an open field of contact so they usually leaves me to engaging multiple contacts.

And I still for the life of me can’t wrap my head around the three country system. From my observation it’s an old system that worked when you guys had 600 players. We now have a fifth of that at prime during the week and a third on a Friday night. I have asked this many times and never gotten a straight answer as to why/how this is suppose to work. And “this is how it’s always been” is not a good answer. I own a small business and have had to change my business model three times in 6 years. If I still tried to run it as I did 6 yrs ago it would not be as proficient or profitable as it is. So maybe change for what we are in now and plan for where we want to be is a better idea right now. Because honestly the horse and buggy worked great a hundred years ago but you don’t really see that as a daily grocery getter advertisement on the YouTube ad do you? 

[Shuffler]

This am was a great example of that. Bush totaled 24 players and nits and rooks had 38 combined. I was on for almost two hours and not a single base on the nit rook front flashed. Yet the bish had a 13.9 eny. I watched about 8 bases get rolled as streams of lancs 47m 190d 51d and temps rolled in over the tops of the bases.

Sounds like a good fight without having to go far.

[Vraciu]

Sounds like a good fight without having to go far.

More like tedious.  To each his own. 

[flippz]

Sounds like a good fight without having to go far.

you would think, but no one will "fight" they hover over a base and pick until you come in at coalt or even e state and then they run.  I flew two sorties over our base in a spit ran to 1/4 tank each time chasing a plane and only landed two kills. that's boring very boring with a full dar bar over your head. don't forget the eny we had

[1stpar3]

you would think, but no one will "fight" they hover over a base and pick until you come in at coalt or even e state and then they run.  I flew two sorties over our base in a spit ran to 1/4 tank each time chasing a plane and only landed two kills. that's boring very boring with a full dar bar over your head. don't forget the eny we had

Well its actually a GOOD THING we had ENY Otherwise they wouldnt have been anywhere near OUR base. Seems lately as soon as ENY ups to beyond WIRB levels...an attack will take shape. After most defenders up in ENY limited vehicles or planes the ENY suddenly goes back to normal. Almost like its planned Why I stay low,if they want me its gonna be on my terms,aint gonna chase. Still more fun than anything else I have found 

[Shuffler]

you would think, but no one will "fight" they hover over a base and pick until you come in at coalt or even e state and then they run.  I flew two sorties over our base in a spit ran to 1/4 tank each time chasing a plane and only landed two kills. that's boring very boring with a full dar bar over your head. don't forget the eny we had

Try staying low. They will come to you. Do not chase them. They will want that easy low kill. Make them miss till they are frustrated and make a mistake.

It is not how many kills you land but the fight. You can have some knock-out drag-out fights and only land one or two kills. Once you land or die, as the case may be..... you had a blast fighting.

I know you have been here long enough to know this but sometimes we just forget when we are pulled into another persons attempt at a trap. Just because they have alt does not really mean they are controlling the fight. 

I will soon be back and.look forward to it. 

[The Fugitive]

Try staying low. They will come to you. Do not chase them. They will want that easy low kill. Make them miss till they are frustrated and make a mistake.

It is not how many kills you land but the fight. You can have some knock-out drag-out fights and only land one or two kills. Once you land or die, as the case may be..... you had a blast fighting.

I know you have been here long enough to know this but sometimes we just forget when we are pulled into another persons attempt at a trap. Just because they have alt does not really mean they are controlling the fight. 

I will soon be back and.look forward to it. 

Thats one of the problems the game is facing these days (see bolded text). To a large....very large portion of the player population this is no longer true. EASY kills to get your name in lights, HOing, or just to knock defenders out of the sky to grab a base quick are now the norm. Running to ack, bailing, runnning to friends are the main maneuvers that most players learn and figure that is enough of an arsenal and dont learn anything else about fighting. The game is  no longer "about the fight", its about winning as quickly as they can.

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Below bold statement is why I think front-based ENY would be fair.

I don't want ENY restrictions go away, just be changed
I've been rolled by 1:3 too many times and it's hard as it is meeting ENY 15-25  P51B's and 190A5, F4u1 Spit9's  - meeting perked or ENY 5 planes just make it a suicide.

If ENY actually reflected the numerical odds people are facing it might be useful. But as long as we have the current setup that will never happen. For whatever reason most of the time it seems 2 of the countries gang up against the 3rd and one front is completely quiet. (Yes, this happens to every side with equal frequency but that doesn't make it any less annoying when it happens to your side.) And then there are all the people in the tower that are AFK for hours at a stretch. The result is you can be facing 3-2 or even 2-1 odds in all your fights AND be restricted to midwar planes. One 190-A5 in a big and more or less evenly matched furball can be fun to fly; one 190-A5 against a bunch of La-7s, 109-K4s, and Spit16s that come in with a huge alt advantage is just suicide. It also robs you of the ability to use CVs to attack because the only plane that can carry a meaningful ord load is the TBM, and a TBM against superior numbers of late war fighters is even MORE suicidal. There's no point in trying and no fun in the attempt.

And 12 hours or 6, the long side switch time works completely at cross purposes with ENY. 6 hours is still longer than most people spend online at a time. It means your side switch is for the rest of the evening even if ENY goes the other way. This happened to me just the other night, I switched from bish to rooks and 2 hours later the rooks had a 20 or so ENY and I was stuck there. It discourages people from switching at the same time ENY is supposed to be encouraging people to switch for balance.

As I said before this is mostly a problem late night. Late night is already a problem with no one doing anything but trying to sneak unopposed bases, which is not all that hard when there are three times as many bases as players. And half the people are in GVs which are completely invisible and just hide when any enemy is around and wait for the opponent to get bored hunting for hay-colored needles in the haystack and go somewhere else. The game is getting close to unplayable late at night. ENY is only a small part of that but still, it is part of the problem, not the solution.