"Pantelleria, 1943" scenario-design topic

[Brooke]

"No sector counters below 1000 ft.  Pantelleria and ships have no radar.  Sector counters only, no “dot” radar for land bases."
Will sector counters only work in areas with radar coverage?

Yep.  The current writeup has range-based sector counters from the mainland bases (North Africa and Sicily), but no range-based sector counters from Pantelleria or ships.  Pantelleria and ships have base flash, though, currently set at 8 miles.

[Guppy35]

I have a G-6 skin for 7./Jg  53  from this exact period, June '43 in Sicily.

I also have a II/Jg 27 skin for the G-2 from May '43 in Sicily.

I recommend switching the 109 types between these groups.

Me too as I've got JG53 on the brain and a new G6 profile to work with

[Guppy35]

F Mk.IXs or LF Mk.IXs? Because in this 1943 time slot the LFs were a little more common with the higher boost levels than our 1942-era F Mk.IX. In the past we've often subbed the 8 or the 16 in-game for the LF Mk.IXs as they better match its era-accurate performance. I'm not sure about this setup, but that's the first thing that comes to mind.

I don't ever remember subbing the 16 in a scenario for anything.  Too many heart attacks

As much as I love the 8, if there are going to be two groups of Spits, I'd go with Spit Vs and IXs.  Both the RAF and USAAF were using IXs as high cover for Vs at the squadron level.

[Brooke]

[naming of units]

Swareiam and Ditto, can you guys take lead on determining group naming and incorporating people's suggestions there as you see appropriate?

I also saw that bunkers and hangars are worth 3 points each. If 9 are destroyed (27 points) before Frame 3, the Allies receive .5 Victory points (please correct me if I am wrong).

The allies receive 0.5 Victory Points if they destroy 25 valid targets (75 points worth) prior to end of Frame 2.  I need to write that in the rules in a better way than it's in there currently.

Lastly, a tie is possible. . . . You could  also apply a tiebreaker rule.

Yes.  I think having a draw is OK, but depends on people's preferences.

Overall, it looks pretty good for a preliminary write up. Looking forward to it 

Thank you, and <S> to you as well.

[Guppy35]

F Mk.IXs or LF Mk.IXs? Because in this 1943 time slot the LFs were a little more common with the higher boost levels than our 1942-era F Mk.IX. In the past we've often subbed the 8 or the 16 in-game for the LF Mk.IXs as they better match its era-accurate performance. I'm not sure about this setup, but that's the first thing that comes to mind.

Just to clarify on the first VIIIs that the 31st got. I checked the 31st FG History.   They were early FVIIIs with Merlin 61s, not LFVIII with the Merlin 66, the same as the AH Spit IX with the Merlin 61.

To me that means stick with the IXs and Vbs as they had both in 43.

[Bruv119]

all I know is everything is better with more Spitfires. 

[Brooke]

all I know is everything is better with more Spitfires. 

[perdue3]

I don't ever remember subbing the 16 in a scenario for anything.  Too many heart attacks

As much as I love the 8, if there are going to be two groups of Spits, I'd go with Spit Vs and IXs.  Both the RAF and USAAF were using IXs as high cover for Vs at the squadron level.

They did in an FSO one time.

[BFOOT1]

I think for the renaming units, we need to do that from here on out until numbers go up. It allows players to get a little immersed, and in my opinion is more of an accurate representation.

[perdue3]

Just to clarify on the first VIIIs that the 31st got. I checked the 31st FG History.   They were early FVIIIs with Merlin 61s, not LFVIII with the Merlin 66, the same as the AH Spit IX with the Merlin 61.

To me that means stick with the IXs and Vbs as they had both in 43.

Sounds good, I just know that they did have Mk. VIII. If Spit IX is better representation, then do that. In which case, the squad should be named either 307th or 309th.

[perdue3]

I would like to formally request the 190's be renamed to 11./SKG 10 (part of IV/SKG 10). I forgot to add them to the list I made earlier, I overlooked them.

[Guppy35]

Just save me tail end charlie in JG53

After much tutoring from Devil505, I think I got my G6 template closer to what he was trying to show me.

[Brooke]

So, everyone good with that group being changed to Spit 9's?

[Devil 505]

So, everyone good with that group being changed to Spit 9's?

Yes, change the Spit 8's to 9's please.

[Devil 505]

Just save me tail end charlie in JG53

After much tutoring from Devil505, I think I got my G6 template closer to what he was trying to show me.

Looking good.