Reality Check

[1stpar3]

First things first...I AM trying to get use to a new controller..I had a headache...and my Spit8 was holding 50% fuel but I got a humbling experience this evening. Fess asked for some DA company, so nothing I wanted to do was happening,so I said sure! He never showed...AND WAS A GOOD THING. As it turned out, if he DID show...I would have been traumatized SPECIAL THANKS to, Bixby and JoBravo Jo CLAIMED he was new..but I think hes a shade I at least scored some kills on him Bixby though...couldnt touch him..closest I got was,  well... a collision I sort of have to change how I feel about those who want AIR FIGHTS, in this Air v Ground animosity lately! It was ALSO the first time I have been in DA since 2013(TRUE--the others were just excuses AND NOT TRUE) but DAMN THAT WAS INTENSE! You would swear I was actually pulling G's...by the sound of my breathing on film. So at least NOW, I can understand you guys a bit better. If I had been used to that sort of stuff in MA for so long...It would feel like you had to learn how to walk again. HOWEVER...I still stand by my belief that all aspects in the game ARE COMBAT...but I UNDERSTAND a bit better why you guys are suffering   Why on EARTH, is it so hard to get folk into the DA? That was BADASS! Thanks again Bixby and Jobravo...we gonna have to do that again! This time I will load my guns, calibrate my stick and go easy on the gas

[FESS67]

Yeah sorry the fight got good then bad.  I have to fly out for work back in 3 weeks

[nrshida]

JoBravo is relatively new to AH but has played other flight sims.

Why on EARTH, is it so hard to get folk into the DA?

Simple. In the MA a strict adherence to Dicta Boelcke's Rule № 1 is fully supported by the external environment. In the DA it's only internal to the players.

[mERv]

"I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do I do, I do believe in spooks."

 

[1stpar3]

JoBravo is relatively new to AH but has played other flight sims.


Simple. In the MA a strict adherence to Dicta Boelcke's Rule № 1 is fully supported by the external environment. In the DA it's only internal to the players.

Obviously so! I do too, why it was embarrassing...IN A GOOD WAY! It was tongue in cheek..(saying he was a shade).I know English isnt your first language, didnt pick up the vibe that you misunderstood...just clarifying!  It was in MY FAV RIDE, well as of last tour or so. If you subtracted the GV kills and killed by...solid 4/1 K/D. Thats with me low searching for GVS ALL THE TIME..not conducive to a good score in that regard. He LITERALLY had me panting like a hot dog in August! I ended up settling into a groove...but then we went Spit8..rinse..repeat. I just not accustomed to that sort of fight. With Bixby, after reviewing film...He just beat me to the "Turn". As I adjusted my MERGE I got a bit closer, meaning got hits..but just outer wing tips, nothing solid. It was an eye opener! Pretty sure I could beat either in a Bombing scenario though...It helps me sleep at night DAMN that was fun

[1stpar3]

Yeah sorry the fight got good then bad.  I have to fly out for work back in 3 weeks

Oh, NO PROBLEM! I would have embarrassed my old Wingman THRASH.  Heck, I play DCS...its no joke, and do better than I did tonight. Not saying it was TOTAL OWNAGE as I dont think a single fight lasted less than 8 min or so...but ended ALL WRONG. I am still jazzed up, and that was 7 hours ago! Watching film...I see what got me with Bixby. He beat me at the merge most of the time. As I adjusted my merge, I got closer but He had to run...I would have got him on the next one!? SHUT UP..Its my story  

[nrshida]

"I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do I do, I do believe in spooks."

I dunno bud, at this cynical age of 468 in AH years I think it's more laziness than lack of courage.

He LITERALLY had me panting like a hot dog in August!

Good technique is like leverage ain't it. Gives you a mechanical advantage if you do it right, pinches your fingers if you don't!

I've found in the past these types of player are always very approachable and the first to help develop your technique if you ask.

Terribly sorry about the English. I have been working very hard on it.

[1stpar3]

I dunno bud, at this cynical age of 468 in AH years I think it's more laziness than lack of courage.


Good technique is like leverage ain't it. Gives you a mechanical advantage if you do it right, pinches your fingers if you don't!

I've found in the past these types of player are always very approachable and the first to help develop your technique if you ask.

Terribly sorry about the English. I have been working very hard on it.

Eh, I am from the Southern US, Tennessee....we screw it up ourselves!    I had the KNOWLEDGE of HOW to do it...Just dont have that sort of fight. Think I was over thinking it? My style of play puts me in a bind ALWAYS. Maybe desperation leads to a more INSTINCTUAL response without the clutter? I play DCS, which is NO JOKE...this just really blew me away...well without ACTUALLY LOSING VITAL PARTS of my anatomy

[nrshida]

Think I was over thinking it?

Did you film it?

[FESS67]

THRASH was always a quality fight

[zack1234]

I would own all of you in the DA

[nrshida]

I would own all of you in the DA

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[Vraciu]

Oh, NO PROBLEM! I would have embarrassed my old Wingman THRASH.  Heck, I play DCS...its no joke, and do better than I did tonight. Not saying it was TOTAL OWNAGE as I dont think a single fight lasted less than 8 min or so...but ended ALL WRONG. I am still jazzed up, and that was 7 hours ago! Watching film...I see what got me with Bixby. He beat me at the merge most of the time. As I adjusted my merge, I got closer but He had to run...I would have got him on the next one!? SHUT UP..Its my story

Fess is a scrub. 

  JK.

[DmonSlyr]

The DA is one of the best places to learn the game and practice your airial combat. When you understand what you are doing in the DA, you will he much more successful in the MA.

[The Fugitive]

The DA is one of the best places to learn the game and practice your airial combat. When you understand what you are doing in the DA, you will he much more successful in the MA.

Yup, doing many 1 vs 1 in the DA really help you learn how to dodge the HOs, avoid the pickers and learn to recognize the runners. 

The DA is great to learn plane control and the limits of different planes. If fights were left alone in the MA you could say it crosses over well but it doesnt, it is a much different style of fighting. Now, with that said, learning good plane control and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of the different planes can help you with fighting in the MA, but the fights are very different for the most part in the MA.