Author Topic: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS  (Read 4339 times)

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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2018, 12:59:58 PM »
looks amazing! i may have to pause my perk farming 30+eny ride use (have to feed my 262 addiction) and pony up!

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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2018, 01:47:48 PM »
looks amazing! i may have to pause my perk farming 30+eny ride use (have to feed my 262 addiction) and pony up!

Thanks, BB.  Any feedback after you fly it is appreciated in advance.   :salute
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2018, 09:07:54 AM »
One question I have is why quite a few of the new skins and this is one. With the camo paint it looks like they have eight coats of high gloss clear over the camo. This makes the plane paint look really bad. Even more so when it happens on a Spitfire it just looks weird.
When flying the plane and turning if you look out at the wings the camo and metal surface have the same high gloss look to them. Flat paint should not have a high gloss.

The paint job on this skin is very well done. I think it is the way the game is handling the light reflection off the surface that makes it look very strange.
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2018, 09:30:03 AM »
One question I have is why quite a few of the new skins and this is one. With the camo paint it looks like they have eight coats of high gloss clear over the camo. This makes the plane paint look really bad. Even more so when it happens on a Spitfire it just looks weird.
When flying the plane and turning if you look out at the wings the camo and metal surface have the same high gloss look to them. Flat paint should not have a high gloss.

Thanks for stopping in. 

If you look at paint, even the flattest will have some reflection.   However, my painted areas are definitely not high gloss.  At best they’re semi-flat.     If you make them completely flat through the spec maps they wind up looking two dimensional on the 3D Shape which is really disconcerting. 


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The paint job on this skin is very well done. I think it is the way the game is handling the light reflection off the surface that makes it look very strange.


Have you flown it yet with the update or were you flying the previous version?

It’s possible one of my maps got messed up.  Let me jump online and see.

The metal and the paint should have much different properties. 

BRB. 
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2018, 09:52:46 AM »
Rebel, can you post a screenshot of what you’re seeing?

I flew it in the Match Play Arena and it looks okay to me, but my bias may be showing.  (I’d post a screenshot of my own but my laptop wont show details due to the graphics card being so so.) If it’s wrong the fix is pretty easy, so let’s nail it down and I can tweak it as necessary.   :cheers:
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2018, 10:31:04 AM »
I just downloaded the skin and I can verify that it has Supershine(TM) Something went very wrong with the spec maps.
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2018, 10:54:15 AM »
I just downloaded the skin and I can verify that it has Supershine(TM) Something went very wrong with the spec maps.

I don't see that on my end. 

At all. 


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I'll take some screenshots when I get home and see if we can nail this down.   It's an easy fix if It's wrong. 
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2018, 12:06:23 PM »
With reflections off the skin looks fine but turn it on and it applies 8 coats of high gloss to the skin....
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2018, 12:28:22 PM »
With reflections off the skin looks fine but turn it on and it applies 8 coats of high gloss to the skin....

Ah, okay.  That helps.  I fly with reflections off. 

Let me look at it again.   :salute
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2018, 01:38:57 PM »
With reflections off the skin looks fine but turn it on and it applies 8 coats of high gloss to the skin....

Okay.  This is an easy fix.  My E map is optimized for reflections off.  I will update them to work properly with reflections on.  Thanks for letting me know. 

For now just turn them off if you want to see it properly. 
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2018, 02:37:39 PM »
You may want to check the last batch you did for the same issue... Thanks for taking the time to fix this I like to fly with reflections on as it sometimes gives away distant aircraft. It also gives away aircraft turning.
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Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2018, 02:58:30 PM »
You may want to check the last batch you did for the same issue... Thanks for taking the time to fix this I like to fly with reflections on as it sometimes gives away distant aircraft. It also gives away aircraft turning.

Agreed.   This will be an issue for most of the skins I've done as I switched my E maps around.   Thanks again for letting me know.  I will fix them ASAP.   :cheers:
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Updated with better coloring.  Original at bottom.   I will eventually re-draw it completely but this is hopefully a step in the right direction in the interim.





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Sharp looking skin.
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Sharp looking skin.

Thanks.   My eye has shifted some since I did this one originally.   I'll be tweaking a lot of skins with this new perspective prior to full makeovers.
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