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Offline TWCAxew

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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2018, 03:52:14 PM »
So what is it called exactly ? I see no AvA in the Arena list.... and never actually saw it

Not on our timezone bud. I think they run it around 2 am unfortunately..

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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2018, 04:22:48 PM »
euro koth is the only place you will get people WANTING to fight in our time zone...
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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2018, 05:28:24 PM »
And yet this inadvertently highlights one of the arena's problems.    Let's see if anyone can solve that riddle.

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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2018, 05:31:16 PM »
Poor JoBravo is getting chaffed and flared simultaneously for a fairly simple question.  :rofl

I'm getting the impression this might've gone a bit off topic  :bhead
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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2018, 08:31:38 PM »
I'm getting the impression this might've gone a bit off topic  :bhead

That’s for sure.



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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2018, 03:57:17 PM »
I'm getting the impression this might've gone a bit off topic  :bhead
That wasnt lost in translation. I am with ya ,bud. I like it all, dogfight when I can and just blow Tanks up when I cant Dogfight. Usually the one leads to the other, for me any way. Heck, you opened my eyes TO The Dogfight aspect, which I had failed to pursue...so I am slowly sliding into yours and Vraciu's side of this fence. A pure fight is hard to come by at times. If you see me on....all ya gotta do is holler at me! Think those Hedges in DA need another TRIM :devil OH, and COFFEE is ILLEGAL :neener:
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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2018, 04:19:55 PM »
I have never had to spend more than 3 seconds to "find a fight".     Of course, I liked to spawn out of the fighter hanger of a vulch capped field.

It think the guys complaining about "not being able to find a fight" really mean "not being able to find a fight where 3 minutes of climbout puts you at an advantage over the enemy".

Imagine how the P51 guys felt when they arrived in germany at 32,000 feet to find Axis fighters higher than them.

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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2018, 11:14:26 PM »
A few months ago and I would have said YOU were right :uhoh These last few months,it seems the GAME PLAY has really changed. I dont know why that is,I just know I am seeing it. I have been paying closer attention though,so may be that. Personally, I dont up looking for one thing in particular,I am a easy come easy go personality. Its all still fun to me..but I am seeing changes. :uhoh
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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2018, 12:30:11 AM »
No Jo. That’s your simple answer. NO

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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2018, 01:39:13 AM »
No Jo. That’s your simple answer. NO
Sure feels like that, I know! Wish we could figure out how to reverse this trend, of CARTOON LIVES MATTER. I still find some fun, even IF the GV'ers gripe...For me, nothing better than upping with bombs and slaughtering those guys(Not in bombers either, Spits and KI's...damn Skippy, all small bombs), at least until their air cover arrives! Makes for some great action....and more kills. :devil
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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2018, 10:56:03 AM »
It's the stats is what's killing "the game". The metrics drive people to play timidly giving them the idea they're good players if only because their stats say they are. I don't play the game that way. Lot of players that go back as far as I do don't either. To us it's about the fight. I fly, I fight, I live, I  die, I get another beer and another plane. No big deal. I don't fly nearly as much as I used to but when I do I still have fun. Last night after FSO I was on til the wee hours and found plenty of action with some guys that weren't afraid to mix it up. <S> Yucca, Horble, Violator. Of course there were other guys just breezing along that never really engaged anybody. I guess they're the stats guys. <Shrug>

Stats are a great thing and, of course, stats don't lie! But they can be a two edged sword. I'm a baseball fan and I look at how stats/sabremetrics are literally changing the game in recent years. Defensive shifts, launch angles, pitching specialists have changed how the game is played. But that's how these guys get paid! The bunt and the stolen base have all but been removed from the game to the point of a generation of players that don't even know how to do it anymore! Launch angles make for all or nothing swings so you either make really hard contact our no contact at all! I heard an interview with Gary Sheffield. He was like, man if ever struck out a hundred times in a year I couldn't look people in the eye! Now 200 Ks are almost normal! But it's all good. You got 40 home runs. So you get paid!

Don't know if that analogy makes sense. I was trying to point out that stats can drive players in certain directions for whatever motivations they might have. Seems that is at least a factor in what's happening to our game. I look at my stats now and then. Usually just to see how pathetic my gunnery still is after all these years!


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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2018, 12:49:33 PM »
It's the stats is what's killing "the game". The metrics drive people to play timidly giving them the idea they're good players if only because their stats say they are. I don't play the game that way. Lot of players that go back as far as I do don't either. To us it's about the fight. I fly, I fight, I live, I  die, I get another beer and another plane. No big deal. I don't fly nearly as much as I used to but when I do I still have fun. Last night after FSO I was on til the wee hours and found plenty of action with some guys that weren't afraid to mix it up. <S> Yucca, Horble, Violator. Of course there were other guys just breezing along that never really engaged anybody. I guess they're the stats guys. <Shrug>

Stats are a great thing and, of course, stats don't lie! But they can be a two edged sword. I'm a baseball fan and I look at how stats/sabremetrics are literally changing the game in recent years. Defensive shifts, launch angles, pitching specialists have changed how the game is played. But that's how these guys get paid! The bunt and the stolen base have all but been removed from the game to the point of a generation of players that don't even know how to do it anymore! Launch angles make for all or nothing swings so you either make really hard contact our no contact at all! I heard an interview with Gary Sheffield. He was like, man if ever struck out a hundred times in a year I couldn't look people in the eye! Now 200 Ks are almost normal! But it's all good. You got 40 home runs. So you get paid!

Don't know if that analogy makes sense. I was trying to point out that stats can drive players in certain directions for whatever motivations they might have. Seems that is at least a factor in what's happening to our game. I look at my stats now and then. Usually just to see how pathetic my gunnery still is after all these years!


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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2018, 02:29:52 PM »
Dweeb! I got an assist on you after conducting my espionage mission.


Serves ya right after all night of you reducing all my kills to assists! I finally get rid of you and had a nice little 3 kill run there at the end but everybody wanted me then! My tattered lightning never made it home! Then it got dark. AGAIN!

Fun night.


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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2018, 03:24:09 PM »
It's the stats is what's killing "the game". The metrics drive people to play timidly giving them the idea they're good players if only because their stats say they are. I don't play the game that way. Lot of players that go back as far as I do don't either. To us it's about the fight. I fly, I fight, I live, I  die, I get another beer and another plane. No big deal. I don't fly nearly as much as I used to but when I do I still have fun. Last night after FSO I was on til the wee hours and found plenty of action with some guys that weren't afraid to mix it up. <S> Yucca, Horble, Violator. Of course there were other guys just breezing along that never really engaged anybody. I guess they're the stats guys. <Shrug>

Stats are a great thing and, of course, stats don't lie! But they can be a two edged sword. I'm a baseball fan and I look at how stats/sabremetrics are literally changing the game in recent years. Defensive shifts, launch angles, pitching specialists have changed how the game is played. But that's how these guys get paid! The bunt and the stolen base have all but been removed from the game to the point of a generation of players that don't even know how to do it anymore! Launch angles make for all or nothing swings so you either make really hard contact our no contact at all! I heard an interview with Gary Sheffield. He was like, man if ever struck out a hundred times in a year I couldn't look people in the eye! Now 200 Ks are almost normal! But it's all good. You got 40 home runs. So you get paid!

Don't know if that analogy makes sense. I was trying to point out that stats can drive players in certain directions for whatever motivations they might have. Seems that is at least a factor in what's happening to our game. I look at my stats now and then. Usually just to see how pathetic my gunnery still is after all these years!


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IDK... Anyone playing for stats last night was not very successful haha.

Great fights and furballs last night all around. I had a lot of fun.

It's really just the need for some to constantly gang and it's challenging in AH to avoid 6 190Ds and Yak3s diving down on ya. Then you reverse them and they hit X and run away. It's really that kind of flying that gets tiring for people to fight against.
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Re: Any Dogfight Lovers left in the Game ?
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2018, 05:51:18 PM »
the need for some to constantly gang and it's challenging in AH to avoid 6 190Ds and Yak3s diving down on ya. Then you reverse them and they hit X and run away. It's really that kind of flying that gets tiring for people to fight against.

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