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Offline Gman

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2080ti
« on: October 29, 2018, 09:51:10 AM »
Anyone else pick up a 2080ti? 

Timespy score of 14865 on a 8700k@5.0, not a bad improvement over the 10k ish score of the 1080ti in the same machine.  Real world performance increase isn't quite as good so far I've found.  In VR there is an  improvement though with the Odyssey, haven't tried the Rift yet to compare.  Still waiting for 9900k to become available here in Canada, they sold out so fast everywhere and I'm on a waitlist at 3 different dealers. 

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 11:48:26 AM »
I find this generation to be a bit disappointing in the extremely high costs with very little performance gains.
I am going to wait until the next generation before looking at a new card.
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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 03:37:11 PM »
I find this generation to be a bit disappointing in the extremely high costs with very little performance gains.
I am going to wait until the next generation before looking at a new card.
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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 04:29:06 PM »
Yep, I couldn't resist trying one, but my other systems are going to be waiting for the 3080ti or whatever nVidia calls it.  If it was for the modest yet acceptable gains in VR in just one single sim I play, upgrading from a 1080ti to a 2080ti is completely pointless IMO.  We're talking about only 10 to 20 fps on average, but that's in a sim where 45fps is frequent with the Odyssey, so getting 20 to 30%+ bumps is worth it (sort of...very sort of), at least for me.  Every other game especially non VR...booo.

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 04:47:00 PM »
2080 seems like a nice upgrade for those who skipped the 10 series (ie 9 series or lower). 2080ti just seems extremely overpriced.
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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 07:10:17 PM »
Yep, I couldn't resist trying one, but my other systems are going to be waiting for the 3080ti or whatever nVidia calls it.  If it was for the modest yet acceptable gains in VR in just one single sim I play, upgrading from a 1080ti to a 2080ti is completely pointless IMO.  We're talking about only 10 to 20 fps on average, but that's in a sim where 45fps is frequent with the Odyssey, so getting 20 to 30%+ bumps is worth it (sort of...very sort of), at least for me.  Every other game especially non VR...booo.

Your 1080 ti is only getting 45 fps with an odyssey? I was considering picking one up but am running a 1070ti. Not sure if it would even be playable..im pretty surprised.

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2018, 02:04:19 PM »
That's just in one specific sim Atlau, it depends on your detail settings in DCS regarding VR.  45fps is typically what the VR units drop down to under high detail settings in certain conditions on screen, it's pretty rare to maintain 90fps in the Rift or Odyssey/Vive 2 with their higher rez screens, for anything other than very high altitude and not much going on sort of conditions in game. 

AH3 I haven't tested VR in a while, but keeping high FPS was much easier, and AH3 IMO still has the best cockpit VR implementation of any game out there.

Outside of VR, where the 2080ti has also helped in the FPS department is with 4k LCDs, I have one 4k 144hz Asus PG47UQ right now, and the 1080ti had problems maintaining over 100fps in quite a few games at times I'd noticed @4k on that monitor.  2080ti has increased performance by about 25% I'd say in the games I've run on it so far.  When the 65" nVidia 120hz 4k come out, that'll be where the 2080ti will be worth the $ over the 1080ti...maybe.  We'll see.

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2018, 03:17:55 PM »
I'd keep my hands off the RTX series until they find out why mostly 2080TIs die like flies with obviously corrupted memory (artifacts).

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2018, 06:21:53 PM »
That's just in one specific sim Atlau, it depends on your detail settings in DCS regarding VR.  45fps is typically what the VR units drop down to under high detail settings in certain conditions on screen, it's pretty rare to maintain 90fps in the Rift or Odyssey/Vive 2 with their higher rez screens, for anything other than very high altitude and not much going on sort of conditions in game. 

AH3 I haven't tested VR in a while, but keeping high FPS was much easier, and AH3 IMO still has the best cockpit VR implementation of any game out there.

Outside of VR, where the 2080ti has also helped in the FPS department is with 4k LCDs, I have one 4k 144hz Asus PG47UQ right now, and the 1080ti had problems maintaining over 100fps in quite a few games at times I'd noticed @4k on that monitor.  2080ti has increased performance by about 25% I'd say in the games I've run on it so far.  When the 65" nVidia 120hz 4k come out, that'll be where the 2080ti will be worth the $ over the 1080ti...maybe.  We'll see.


Gotcha, i assumed you meant 45 fps in AH which isnt the most demanding game. I think i can hold 120 fps+ @ 1440p with a 1070 ti with most details maxed out

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2018, 04:46:38 AM »
I'd keep my hands off the RTX series until they find out why mostly 2080TIs die like flies with obviously corrupted memory (artifacts).
Igor from Tomshardware did some review of the thermal imagery he made of a 2080Ti FE during his Test, the memory modules M6 and M7 are very close to the VRM + between VRM/GPU and get very hot under load, possibly exceeding the 95°C absolute maximum temp specified by Micron.
https://www.tomshw.de/2018/10/30/stimmen-haeufen-sich-sterbende-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-grafikkarten/

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2018, 05:39:07 AM »
One of the problems with RTX is that there lots of useless logic for vast majority of gamer added.

1. RT Cores are wasted silicon unless you do ray tracing
2. Tensor Cores are useless unless you do deep learning/inference (more correct description for fancy word AI)

Take a look, transistor count from 1080ti to 2080ti increased from 12 billions to 18.3 billions while number of cuda cores - (stuff that runs actual gpu code) increased only by 20% (4352 from 3584)

So virtually you paying for lots of stuff you don't use or will not use in near future.




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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2018, 04:43:24 PM »
Parts for one PC are in (pic below) - finding these things is a real PITA right now, I'm on wait/pre/back order list for 2 eVGA 2080tis and 2 more 9900k, with 3 different suppliers giving me estimates from 3 weeks to January 2019 right now.  I lucked out when NewEgg had some 9900k come in on Thursday last week which promptly sold out in 3 minutes, to have picked the last one off -I tried to purchase the max of 2 but only 1 was left available by the time I confirmed payment.  Going to put a 3600 32gb Gskill ram kit into this build, and pull my 6850k Broadwell E x99 platform out of a 750D system which has a good psu in it, and re use the x61 AIO as it's only a year old and barely been used.


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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2018, 12:02:00 AM »
Wish i had your problems :)

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2018, 02:25:35 PM »
Heh, Newegg sent me a notice this AM that they have 3 of my back ordered i9 9900k in - that batch sold out too, but I grabbed them anyway. I have one extra now. If anyone here wants/needs one (they are very hard to find in stock right now), I'll sell it for the exact price I paid.

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Re: 2080ti
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2018, 07:45:52 PM »
i9-9900k@5.0 2080ti oc @ 175/700mem is doing 3dmark light consistently around 15135.  Not bad, hopefully the EVGA 2080ti ftw card will be faster.

Decent improvement in VR FPS wise.