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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2018, 03:42:48 PM »
Research is your friend.

So you can't provide the proof.

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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2018, 04:10:28 PM »
So you can't provide the proof.

I can but I won’t.   There’s a difference.  (I already posted an article with the details, come to think of it.)


I am not required to do your research for you.   Do what I did and look it up yourself. 
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2018, 04:10:37 PM »
So they were scared of provoking WW3 instead of their limited proxy war.  Makes sense. Worked out well enough.
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2018, 05:48:53 PM »
Arlo delivers.    :aok
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2018, 07:52:24 PM »
It's still anecdotal. I never suspected Milo would demand the NSA or Russian documents (material none of us have easy access to nor would they likely be online) in order to accuse Captain Williams of being a liar if they weren't provided post haste. I was merely impressed with the story and took it at face value. I think that's not going too far in this community. It's not like we're praising Voss. :)

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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2018, 08:07:02 PM »
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2018, 02:48:44 AM »
Thank you Arlo.

Jordan, Corey C. (2001). "Panthers Prevail". A Frozen Hell... The Air War Over Korea.

"Her pilots downed two Soviet-built MiG-15 jets and damaged a third on 18 November."

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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2018, 01:38:19 PM »
Thank you Arlo.

Jordan, Corey C. (2001). "Panthers Prevail". A Frozen Hell... The Air War Over Korea.

"Her pilots downed two Soviet-built MiG-15 jets and damaged a third on 18 November."

Outdated material. 


He is credited with four, confirmed by the Soviets who listed the names of the pilots he downed. 
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2018, 01:43:22 PM »
sure what ever you say while flapping your gums.

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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2018, 02:37:06 PM »
sure what ever you say while flapping your gums.

You stay classy, San Diego.   Meanwhile, go do some research and educate yourself.   
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2018, 02:38:57 PM »
"All four MiGs were flown by Soviet Naval Aviation pilots: Russian sources confirmed Williams' claims, 40 years later, stating that the pilots lost were Captains Belyakov and Vandalov, and Lieutenants Pakhomkin and Tarshinov."



Derp.  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Re: Navy Pilot Shoots Down 4 Soviet MIGs
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2018, 02:58:53 PM »
"All four MiGs were flown by Soviet Naval Aviation pilots: Russian sources confirmed Williams' claims, 40 years later, stating that the pilots lost were Captains Belyakov and Vandalov, and Lieutenants Pakhomkin and Tarshinov."


Sounds persuasive...but...um...what is the source...?

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