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Offline Oldman731

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2018, 06:23:03 PM »
The funny thing is, after reading and listening to some interviews of Luftwaffe pilots on the eastern front, the Yak series of fighters were extraordinarily frail.


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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2018, 07:08:04 PM »
KI84,F4U,190D9 can all kill a Panzer, T34, M4, Panther, Tiger etc. easily. Yak-3 cannot. This factors into ENY also. Not just what a plane can do in an A2A fight.

Also, planes have a separate value for determining points when attacking hangers (and other buildings/strats) it's called OBJ. ENY value has nothing to do with that.
How often is a F4U1A, KI84, 190D9 upped to kill GVs??? THATS the point....the fighter planes upped for ordnance purposes are all the ones that carry enough of it to destroy a hangar.

I'm plenty aware of what every says factors into ENY but nobody has seen the equation...because there isn't one other than Hitech and Skuzzy saying... F it make that an 18 ENY.

Ehh, the 190D is a much bigger nuisance than the F4U1A. Only about 3 pilots make up most of the F4U kills. The F4U is a great plane, but the majority of AH don't know how to fly it, just like the P51. Most F4Us get low and slow and have no chance, while most 190Ds stay high and fast and only pick then are able to run after losing any advantage. The F4U can't easily run after losing Advantage.

The YaK3 squirms and stick stirs until it easily accels away. The YaK3 can hold E exceptionally well, turns about as good as the 109K, and is easier to aim than the 109K. Not only that, but the Yak3 is way stronger than the 109K. The other day, I had 50s. Gave the guy 2 gas leaks, got his aileron, got half his tail, with about 100 bullets and the guy was still able to squirm away from me and go land.

Honestly I'd rather see F4Us than a Yak3 and a 190D. I know me and many others are tired of chasing these goon planes.
Dora is a lot easier to control a furball with for a player....look at the 3 pilots who make up the top kills in the F4U1A...Humboldt, Rud3boi and what J0ker??? Jayro??? All of which sit on a perch and all suck in the F4U1A when they finally do have to fight 1v1....the reason they land so many kills is it is easy to do. More people don't fly it because the views....same with the 109s.

Yak3 and Brewster I still think have some crazy code in their flight model both do things that don't look natural like the rest of the planes in game.

Spit 14, 47m, ta152 and k4s cant kill gvs either. Still monster a2a killers.
I would take a F4U1A or Yak3 against any of those planes at MA altitude anyday...TA152 starts shining above like 18K....how often those fights come up??? same with the 47M and Spit14
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2018, 08:26:50 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2018, 08:44:20 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2018, 09:40:16 PM »
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2018, 01:09:07 AM »
Come try me junky......It seems your personality has not changed........Are you watermelon talking people here or working on something with the yak3?
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2018, 05:07:39 AM »
The funny thing is, after reading and listening to some interviews of Luftwaffe pilots on the eastern front, the Yak series of fighters were extraordinarily frail.

Yaks are not that strong. Most people just overestimate their ability to hit a target. I hear the same story in the Yak-9s... "I hit you a bazillion times" - reality is they may have got one ping on me with a 50 and yes it holed a fuel tank/took out my cannon/oiled my engine.

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2018, 05:50:25 AM »
Yaks are not that strong. Most people just overestimate their ability to hit a target. I hear the same story in the Yak-9s... "I hit you a bazillion times" - reality is they may have got one ping on me with a 50 and yes it holed a fuel tank/took out my cannon/oiled my engine.

Even if it is as you say. They don't die easy. Also the plane does almost everything better than most planes below 15k. And if it's outclassed at something. it does something else which totally outclasses the plane that does. The eny it's set at is just not right. it's should be similar to a la7.
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2018, 10:29:33 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2018, 10:52:44 AM »
Only 3 pages before this thread turned into a chest thumping contest...

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2018, 11:08:17 AM »
The players most touchy (active or not) must have reason to be. ;)

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2018, 11:28:24 AM »
Only 3 pages before this thread turned into a chest thumping contest...

I'm surprised it took that long.  :D

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2018, 01:46:14 PM »
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2018, 01:46:36 PM »
Only 3 pages before this thread turned into a chest thumping contest...

We are slipping.    Shoulda taken one page.   :old:
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2018, 01:47:51 PM »
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