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Offline Brooke

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Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« on: February 24, 2019, 01:00:53 AM »
I was pricing out a computer build I've done before, and it is about 10% more expensive now than it was a year ago.

Anyone know what's up?
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2019, 01:07:21 AM »
Quote from: Brooke on February 24, 2019, 01:00:53 AM
I was pricing out a computer build I've done before, and it is about 10% more expensive now than it was a year ago.

Anyone know what's up?
Was every component more expensive? Some components get cheaper when they try to get rid of them, but often the price goes up again when only few are remaining or when these prove to be popular.
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 01:22:45 AM »
I didn't in the past write down the cost of each component, so I can't tell where the price increase is.

It was just a collection of low-cost stuff -- nothing fancy (Pentium g4400, an inexpensive 1 TB hard disk, 8 GB RAM, etc.).
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2019, 02:04:06 AM »
Quote from: Brooke on February 24, 2019, 01:22:45 AM
I didn't in the past write down the cost of each component, so I can't tell where the price increase is.

It was just a collection of low-cost stuff -- nothing fancy (Pentium g4400, an inexpensive 1 TB hard disk, 8 GB RAM, etc.).

Ram changes as motherboards change. Peripherals change too. I doubt you are buying exactly what you did last time. Not only that but prices can vary a lot on the same item.
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2019, 03:15:54 AM »
Yes
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2019, 03:21:52 AM »
I think I found the culprit.  The Pentium g4400 was $52 in May, 2018.  It is $120 today.

Yikes.  Don't know what the heck is going on there.

Here's the list of stuff I was pricing (same list as last May):
       
1    Apevia X-Qtis No Power Supply MicroATX Case (Black)    CA-XQTISB             
1    Antec Basiq VP-450 450W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply    PS-VP450             
1    Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM010 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6.0 GB/s 64MB Hard Drive (3.5 inch)    HD-ST1DM10             
1    Kingston ValueRAM KVR24N17S8/8 DDR4-2400 8GB/1Gx64 CL17 Memory    F24UA8GK             
1    GIGABYTE GA-H110M-A LGA1151/ Intel H110/ DDR4/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&GbE/ MicroATX Motherboard    MB-H110M-A             
1    Intel Pentium G4400 Dual-Core Skylake Processor 3.3GHz 8.0GT/s 3MB LGA 1151 CPU, Retail    G4400BOX
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2019, 03:22:43 AM »
A 10% change in the component prices doesn't sound much. HDD's are the components I buy most often and I've seen radical changes within mere months. Same disk, 20% more expensive than a month before, then after a couple of months a lower price again. I've heard similar stories about RAM pricing from the builder shops.

Asterix seems to be on the right track, it looks like a classic case of supply and demand.

[Edit] I took a look at pcpartpicker and according to them the G4400 was priced $49.99 at Newegg (Out of stock  :O) and $119 at SuperBiiz and Amazon who have it in stock. [/Edit]
 
« Last Edit: February 24, 2019, 03:34:36 AM by Bizman »
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2019, 03:36:53 AM »
It's weird.  The g4500 (which is faster) is less money than the g4400 (at least at amazon, newegg, and superbiiz).
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2019, 04:13:09 AM »
Not weird at all if you think about how they're made. You see, the processor chips are baked as a large round disc containing hundreds of processors. Although the chips are identical by design, the ones in the middle usually are of better quality and can be clocked higher. However, the manufacturing cost is the same for each of the chips on the disk so if the baking succeeds so that they get more "higher quality" chips than planned, they of course try to get rid of them for a reasonable price.

There's also been cases where the highest demand was for lower priced slower yet fast enough processors which led the manufacturers to underclock their high end chips to supply that demand. When the overclockers found that out, the demand for certain models skyrocketed. AFAIK AMD did that with their Athlons to release more Durons in the early 2000's, don't know if that has happened since in a larger scale.
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2019, 05:30:40 AM »
Not just computer parts..

Guns and Gun Parts prices are jumping again..
Tools and Shop equipment prices are rising as well..
Lumber and Building Materials also..

Been creeping up steadily since the beginning of the year..
Economy has been cooking pretty good, generally inflation follows..

And.. A recent SCOTUS ruling, says that States can now charge sales tax on
out of state purchases.. No more, no tax, no shipping, killer internet deals for us!

« Last Edit: February 24, 2019, 05:45:55 AM by OldNitro »
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2019, 07:18:10 AM »
Quote from: Brooke on February 24, 2019, 03:21:52 AM
I think I found the culprit.  The Pentium g4400 was $52 in May, 2018.  It is $120 today.

Yikes.  Don't know what the heck is going on there.

That seems pretty ordinary for Intel. For example similar thing was suspected with G4560 as it seemed to rob i3-7100 sales.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/757044-pentium-g4560-vs-core-i3-7100/

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/107761-rumours-suggest-intel-quietly-killing-pentium-g4560-cpu/

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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2019, 08:50:19 AM »
The G4400 is almost 4 years old now so I'm not surprised prices are starting to go up as newer processors replace it.

If anything, prices have gone down (specifically RAM and video card prices) as of late.
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2019, 01:45:59 PM »
I'm guessing the g4400 has become scarce in supply, and vendors are taking advantage of people who don't know what they are doing.

Who would otherwise buy a $120 g4400 when he could otherwise buy a $90 g4560, which is drop-in compatible but faster and better?
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2019, 04:00:51 PM »
Maybe its collusion? Its happened before recently and in the past.
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Re: Have costs of computer items gone up recently?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2019, 06:19:11 PM »
No one should by a Pentium that is that expensive with the new Ryzen-based Athlons available at ~50$ + about the same for a cheap motherboard.
Due to Intel's failure with the 10nm fabrication tech they are are hard pressed to produce sufficient chips in 14nm, the cheapest chips have now become those with the lowest priority thus prizes are by far too high.
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