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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2019, 01:12:37 PM »
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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2019, 01:44:16 PM »
Didn’t they have to manufacture the plane to where it would leak after landing? Or did I read something wrong. Something to do with the heat making the plane expand etc.

The plane in flight would heat and expand. When at rest the fittings were loose because the plane was cool. All in the design.... on a slide rule at that.
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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2019, 01:52:15 PM »
The plane in flight would heat and expand. When at rest the fittings were loose because the plane was cool. All in the design.... on a slide rule at that.
Same guy figgered up the P-38 too!

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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2019, 01:57:16 PM »
Same guy figgered up the P-38 too!

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The P-38 Lightning can do a spiral dive and recover like the F-35.   :D

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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2019, 01:57:31 PM »
Same guy figgered up the P-38 too!

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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2019, 02:00:22 PM »
The P-38 Lightning can do a spiral dive and recover like the F-35.   :D
I hear that the thrust vectoring in the P38 was ahead of its time.
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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2019, 02:11:30 PM »
I hear that the thrust vectoring in the P38 was ahead of its time.

Not saying it was a good technique. 

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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2019, 02:12:59 PM »
Not saying it was a good technique. 

If you were a young expert fighter pilot just playing around out of sight of the base...

If the 38 got into a flat spin wouldn’t cutting 1 engine off help you recover?
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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2019, 02:24:52 PM »
If the 38 got into a flat spin wouldn’t cutting 1 engine off help you recover?

Reducing to idle vs cutoff might be a better technique, especially if recovery occurred at low altitude. 



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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2019, 02:33:51 PM »
If the 38 got into a flat spin wouldn’t cutting 1 engine off help you recover?
Pretty sure the manual sez throttle to idle, clean up flaps, slight nose down on stick and opposite rudder.

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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2019, 02:35:25 PM »
Although making sure you ditched that tank or bomb you forgot about might have avoided it in the first place! I have much experience in this area!

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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2019, 03:59:42 PM »
There was a really good aviation historian who died flying a P-38 when one engine cut out on him.  His name was Jeff Ethell.  This was in the late 90s, always enjoyed watching him on "Wings".
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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2019, 04:54:01 PM »
I have a DVD of the P-38 episode of a show he did about different warbirds. Really interesting stuff with a full walk-around and explanation of the different systems and then flying. Sadly I think this was the last episode as he was killed flying that same 38, which was a newly restored bird, just a few weeks later. He lost an engine on final and as I recall it was because he'd forgotten to switch the fuel selector and it starved the engine. And that was something he talked about in the DVD too.

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Re: Flying the F-35
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2019, 04:57:50 PM »
There was a really good aviation historian who died flying a P-38 when one engine cut out on him.  His name was Jeff Ethell.  This was in the late 90s, always enjoyed watching him on "Wings".

Strange to as the 38 is said to fly fine on one engine. The counter rotating props even helps in this regard. Now I imagine under full power in takeoff configuration it might be a bit much to handle if you did not react quick enough.
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