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Offline Shuffler

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Re: Guns and Cops... and balls of steel
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2019, 12:26:31 PM »
actually lots school shootings happen in small towns or suburbs.  easy to find out.  lots of non school shootings with multiple victims are also in small towns.


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... and almost every one they try to emulate some city boy wearing black attire and such.
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« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2019, 02:40:22 PM »
THX big,

  I wasnt totally up on the law but knew it wasnt impossible to purchase an MG if you have your ducks in order and a thick enough wallet.

 Some know I dont live in the USA,that said if I did I would own a few guns myself.I wouldnt want to be unarmed in a country full of guns! As I said the cats out of the bag.

 I grew up with guns,did plenty of hunting in the wilderness of Ontario but I moved to the big city and now I hunt the grocery stores so I have no need for a gun and I dont even own a firearm anymore. Simply is no need where I live so it's not worth the hassle to have one.


 I hope you and yours are doing good Big!!!


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« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2019, 04:09:59 PM »
Don't forget the Mad Max road shootings on the highways here in Oaktown between drug gangs.
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« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2019, 05:07:44 PM »
... and almost every one they try to emulate some city boy wearing black attire and such.

so if a redneck shoots up a school then he's not really a redneck because rednecks don't shoot up schools.

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« Reply #79 on: May 10, 2019, 01:59:43 PM »
so if a redneck shoots up a school then he's not really a redneck because rednecks don't shoot up schools.

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That is pretty silly. Did not see anyone say that but you.

I responded to earlier rattling about rednecks. I do not recall one school shooting pulled off by any redneck.
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« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2019, 02:02:03 PM »
Just did an internet search to research school shooters and mass shootings. The main stream media and allies are referencing a Secret Service report that looked at shootings from the 70's forward which does not say a common characteristic of school and mass shootings is white male living in rural areas(bubbas). The main stream news and allies have included that into their synopsis of the Secret service report as a mantra and meme to discredit gun owners and AR15s by association. Lots of uniformed TV watching of the media in this conversation. The school shooter and mass shooter primary demographic is urban and if voted or, were to vote, would have voted for someone like Obama and never for someone like Trump.

Fits the profile for the recent shooting in Colorado with a unique very new twist. The 16 year old female assailant of the two had gender diaspora issues and thought she was male, while the male fit the profile of being urban, hated Christians and hated the current not Obama party leader of our country and those who voted for him. Oh and he was a honkey or a white guy but, not an Ar15 wielding white guy "bubba". I hear from the funny buisiness media those are outlawed by popular vote out of Denver and Boulder and were driven from the area with threat of AR15's.

This whole conversation seems like a very thinly veiled conversation allowing part of the participants to discriminate against a cultural demographic of the USA with impunity. Now if Shuffler had started it the same group would be screeching he was a racist.

This is turning into some pretty stinky get out of jail bait and stick it to people just for gits and giggles with total spurious information. Semp please stop poking the bear just to see if you can make it loose it's cookies.....
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« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2019, 02:23:49 PM »
All of these shooters are designed to create outrage among specific groups. They are a divisionist scheme to create outrage, divide and conquer strategy, while taking away or limiting your rights. The car with the F* Society is the give away symbolism that this isn't random. Remember that girl who drove from Florida a few weeks ago to go on a shooting spree because of Columbine who just so happened to commit suicide in the woods? They had it all on lockdown. Very odd and suspicious. Nick Cruz lived under the household of a military IT contractor. He was about to receive 800K from from his diseased fathers fund. He was under psychological help and took SSRIs. His pics on fB did not show his face. Look up how many 'shooters' were under psychological manipulation. While getting arrested he screamed demons were talking to him. he didn't even run or hide? How do you escape a school under lockdown after shooting people and then go eat McDonald's? Something also odd to me is the pictures they show of the shooters, always odd.  Just makes you wonder...

A crisis actor was just caught in New Zealand being interviewed after a cop rammed a terrorist car. She has been exposed and once exposed her acting profile was immediately set to private. I will not post the link for reasons, but just realize you are all being played by secret societies and a media that literally is the enemy of the people. Where do they get their guns? Just ask the people at the LA Mansion just raided with 1500 guns that just got seized. I bet Eric Holder, McCabe and Comey knows.
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« Reply #82 on: May 10, 2019, 02:52:10 PM »
Violater May I ask what forums do you get all this secret society stuff from lol?  Your takes on events always are a strange and unique position.
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« Reply #83 on: May 10, 2019, 03:11:12 PM »
he could tell you but then he would have to kill you.

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« Reply #84 on: May 10, 2019, 05:38:00 PM »
he could tell you but then he would have to kill you.

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« Reply #85 on: May 10, 2019, 06:21:59 PM »
Violater May I ask what forums do you get all this secret society stuff from lol?  Your takes on events always are a strange and unique position.

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« Reply #86 on: May 16, 2019, 12:24:57 PM »
The mass shooters are stuck on AR 15. That's the meat of the argument or "lack thereof." Free to die at their preference of method is kinda limited.

Far more mass shooters use pistols than long guns, most likely because a shooter finds it easier to get into their intended target with a hidden pistol than a hidden rifle.  Long guns, including AR-15s, generally account for around 6% of the firearms homicides each year in the US.  From the Washington Times:  "More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors."  Article: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/

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« Reply #87 on: May 16, 2019, 01:03:21 PM »
The mass shooters are stuck on AR 15. That's the meat of the argument or "lack thereof." Free to die at their preference of method is kinda limited.

I’m gonna assume you think guns are the issue and not the people who are pointing them at others? 
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« Reply #88 on: May 16, 2019, 01:07:48 PM »
Far more mass shooters use pistols than long guns, most likely because a shooter finds it easier to get into their intended target with a hidden pistol than a hidden rifle.  Long guns, including AR-15s, generally account for around 6% of the firearms homicides each year in the US.  From the Washington Times:  "More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors."  Article: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/

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And yet ....

Aurora: AR-15 (12 killed, 70 injured)
Orlando: AR-15 (50 killed, 53 wounded)
Parkland: AR-15 (17 killed, 17 wounded)
Las Vegas: AR-15 (58 killed, 422 wounded)
Sandy Hook: AR-15 (28 killed, 2 wounded)
Sutherland Springs Church: AR-15 (27 dead, 20 wounded)
San Bernardino: AR-15 (14 dead, 24 wounded)

..... kinda speaks for itself. The number of incidents versus the body count of each incident.

"Handguns figured in the Virginia Tech massacre, Binghamton shootings, 2009 Fort Hood shooting, Oikos University shooting, and 2011 Tucson shooting. The Aurora theater shooting and the Columbine High School massacre were committed by assailants armed with multiple weapons.[citation needed] AR-15 style rifles have been used in a number of the deadliest mass shooting incidents, and have come to be widely characterized as the weapon of choice for perpetrators of mass shootings."
Citations:

- Smith, Aaron (June 21, 2016). "Why the AR-15 is the mass shooter's go-to weapon". CNN. Retrieved February 15, 2018. "The AR-15, the type of rifle used in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, is the weapon of choice for mass killers."

- Picchi, Aimee (June 15, 2016). "America's rifle: The marketing of assault-style weapons". CBS MoneyWatch. CBS News. Retrieved February 23, 2018. "America has grown accustomed to military-style semi-automatic weapons such as the AR-15. It's not hard to see why: These firearms have been heavily marketed to gun owners. But at the same time, they're often the weapons of choice for mass murderers."

-  Zhang, Sarah (June 17, 2016). "What an AR-15 Can Do to the Human Body". Wired. Retrieved March 3, 2018. "The AR-15 is America's most popular rifle. It has also been the weapon of choice in mass shootings from Sandy Hook to Aurora to San Bernardino."

- Williams, Joseph P. (November 7, 2017). "How the AR-15 Became One of the Most Popular Guns in America, A brief history of the guns that have become the weapons of choice for mass shootings". U.S. News & World Report. Retrieved February 15, 2018. "They're lightweight, relatively cheap and extremely lethal, inspired by Nazi infantrymen on the Eastern Front during World War II. They're so user-friendly some retailers recommend them for children, yet their design is so aggressive one marketer compared them to carrying a "man card" -- although ladies who dare can get theirs in pink. And if the last few mass shootings are any indication, guns modeled after the AR-15 assault rifle -- arguably the most popular, most enduring and most profitable firearm in the U.S. -- have become the weapon of choice for unstable, homicidal men who want to kill a lot of people very, very quickly."

- Jansen, Bart; Cummings, William (November 6, 2017). "Why mass shooters are increasingly using AR-15s". USA Today. Retrieved February 15, 2018. "AR-15 style rifles have been the weapon of choice in many recent mass shootings, including the Texas church shooting Sunday, the Las Vegas concert last month, the Orlando nightclub last year and Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012."

-  Oppel Jr., Richard A. (February 15, 2018). "In Florida, an AR-15 Is Easier to Buy Than a Handgun". The New York Times. "Retrieved February 15, 2018. The N.R.A. calls the AR-15 the most popular rifle in America. The carnage in Florida on Wednesday that left at least 17 dead seemed to confirm that the rifle and its variants have also become the weapons of choice for mass killers."

-  Lloyd, Whitney (February 16, 2018). "Why AR-15-style rifles are popular among mass shooters". ABC News. Retrieved March 2, 2018. "AR-15-style rifles have become something of a weapon of choice for mass shooters."

- Beckett, Lois (February 16, 2018). "Most Americans can buy an AR-15 rifle before they can buy beer". The Guardian. Retrieved March 2, 2018. "While AR-15 style rifles have become the weapon of choice for some of America's most recent and deadly mass shootings, these military-style guns are still comparatively rarely used in everyday gun violence."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

There's also the difference in damage and the range to be considered:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4043345/ar-15-handgun-bullet-wounds-difference/

Now, don't get me wrong. My strong support of effective gun regulation for "modern sport rifles" like the AR-15 does not preclude effective regulation for handguns (especially models similar to the Glock brand marketed as "Cheaper than dirt").

And nobody seems to recognize that I haven't once mentioned banning anything. I'd be just as reluctant to suggest banning cars.

Anyway, carry on men.  :salute :cheers:

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Re: Guns and Cops... and balls of steel
« Reply #89 on: May 16, 2019, 01:11:24 PM »
I’m gonna assume you think guns are the issue and not the people who are pointing them at others?

A lot of people seem to assume a lot that never entered my posts. But of course it's the people. Just like in car accidents (or even intentional car homicides). And it would be people that would have to have background checks, be fully qualified, apply for registration and occasionally re-qualify under laws that require such.