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Offline SysError

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2019, 12:00:15 PM »
The IL2 with views set so I can fruball. .

Can you explain what you do here?

I love the IL2 but ever since it was remodeled a few years and the views were changed on what you can see, I have had a real hard time with the plane.

If I remember correctly, you could fly it in F3 mode with it back then.

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Offline Shuffler

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2019, 12:23:48 PM »
A great man once told me.... the game is what you make of it.   :salute OM


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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2019, 04:08:38 PM »
Can you explain what you do here?

I love the IL2 but ever since it was remodeled a few years and the views were changed on what you can see, I have had a real hard time with the plane.

If I remember correctly, you could fly it in F3 mode with it back then.

Up your IL2 and change some of the views, F10 to save them. You will produce an il23.hps file in the sub folder of the game's settings called planes. Then open that file in notepad, copy and paste what I'm posting from my il23.hps file over the contents of your file. You don't like the results, delete the il23.hps file and you will be returned to the default HPS file settings for the game. I use TR in two axis mode which inherits the HPS file views as I pan my head around. Means I get the 6 view I set and save with F10 versus doing contortions in my computer chair.


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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2019, 03:12:57 PM »
 :rofl :rofl...Nothing new about the OP.....I can see the image in my head that you tried to HO the 152 and lost....you were in the 190a8 and thought you would explode him but ended up losing and you got frustrated and whined because you were in the sortie for quite some time.  :neener: :neener:



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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2019, 04:39:31 PM »
:rofl :rofl...Nothing new about the OP.....I can see the image in my head that you tried to HO the 152 and lost....you were in the 190a8 and thought you would explode him but ended up losing and you got frustrated and whined because you were in the sortie for quite some time.  :neener: :neener:

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2019, 06:23:47 PM »
Up your IL2 and change some of the views, F10 to save them. You will produce an il23.hps file in the sub folder of the game's settings called planes. Then open that file in notepad, copy and paste what I'm posting from my il23.hps file over the contents of your file. You don't like the results, delete the il23.hps file and you will be returned to the default HPS file settings for the game. I use TR in two axis mode which inherits the HPS file views as I pan my head around. Means I get the 6 view I set and save with F10 versus doing contortions in my computer chair.


Many Thanks!!    :salute

Much better views than I came up with.

I think that for for me the IL2 might be "flyable" again. 

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2019, 07:13:27 PM »
152 makes another pass at me, co-alt, I nose down 1500 out, 152 pushes over to continue to get the HO and takes my tail off.

As a serial HOer (Yak 9T makes a wonderful HO platform when you can vaporize people 1.5k out) I wouldn't class that as a HO. At 1.5k you nosed own, he had to nose down, so he would've been shooting from a hi 12 quarter.

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2019, 02:02:08 AM »
As a serial HOer (Yak 9T makes a wonderful HO platform when you can vaporize people 1.5k out) I wouldn't class that as a HO. At 1.5k you nosed own, he had to nose down, so he would've been shooting from a hi 12 quarter.
:rofl Yep...Do unto others as they do unto you! While I understand the frustration of being hoed....I try to learn how to both avoid AND capitalize on their mistakes! Sure, you will die OFTEN, till you get it down! Personally though...it was a valid ACM, HISTORICLLY speaking. Granted NOT SMART in the real life, it was a thing though. I dont understand that ARGUMENT(you are watermelon if you practice this), as deaths mean ZERO in game :uhoh
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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2019, 02:20:22 AM »
Fugi....I know we are aware of each others opinions on the matter...but it wont change! Sure "it takes 2 to ho" is just as true, as it was a USED TACTIC. Making those "Border Line" Ho shots, could mean life or death. Death means nothing in this game...its the BEST WAY to learn what you messed up on though(with film viewer)! I truly understand your frustrations...but if HONEST, can you really say that changing your "Merge Techniques" wouldnt help you to have a bit more FUN? It made a HUGE difference for me! I hate seeing players frustrated...my fear is losing you as a FOE/Allie over it! I would "Match Play" you till the Cows come home, to just have you experiment with merges and the inevitable HOs!  YMMV but I learned a while ago, that the only reason I die...is that I messed up. So please try and fix you...before you blame us for your frustrations  :uhoh
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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2019, 09:19:53 AM »
Fugi....I know we are aware of each others opinions on the matter...but it wont change! Sure "it takes 2 to ho" is just as true, as it was a USED TACTIC. Making those "Border Line" Ho shots, could mean life or death. Death means nothing in this game...its the BEST WAY to learn what you messed up on though(with film viewer)! I truly understand your frustrations...but if HONEST, can you really say that changing your "Merge Techniques" wouldnt help you to have a bit more FUN? It made a HUGE difference for me! I hate seeing players frustrated...my fear is losing you as a FOE/Allie over it! I would "Match Play" you till the Cows come home, to just have you experiment with merges and the inevitable HOs!  YMMV but I learned a while ago, that the only reason I die...is that I messed up. So please try and fix you...before you blame us for your frustrations  :uhoh

I'm not blaming you or anyone else for my frustration.  I could name all 3 players that ran or pushed for the ho, but didn't. All 3 players are veteran players. I am very good at avoiding the  ho, but while avoiding it  I can still see that the other guy is doing nothing but trying to  ho pass after pass.

The point of the post was to point out my experience in  a single flight in the game. Imagine what a new player would think of that same flight. Veteran players  need to do it better. Sure, we could all jump in a yak and ho the crap out of everyone but is that good for the game?

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2019, 09:51:25 AM »
The point of the post was to point out my experience in  a single flight in the game. Imagine what a new player would think of that same flight. Veteran players  need to do it better. Sure, we could all jump in a yak and ho the crap out of everyone but is that good for the game?

Show me one other PvP game where if you step into a guy's sights, he does not pull the trigger.

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2019, 09:59:29 AM »
Hey pickers and runners do it all day and we are forced to be stuck with it. if you like to turn fight the game gets boring real fast for you because its only runners now. are we supposed to stay and feed the pickers and runners fun even though they make no effort to mix it up once in awhile? 

bots in the match play are more aggressive than humans in the MA kinda sad.

Are the turn fighters all on the same side?   You can't fight each other?  :headscratch:


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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2019, 02:09:33 PM »
Last night squad night POTW went on a break things and tower red guys rampage, 12 of us were online. Much of Rookland got swept up in our herd and we took 5 feilds back to back. And we did it in garbage rides becasue of ENY and still kicked the late war sissies booties for all that speed and power didn't do for them. Five dorks in dora, K4 and 152 tried to hammer my 51B while playing hold the fat kid on the ground and HO him. Not being pigs and always hungry versus smart like POTW, I was able to land while they posed looking good, safe from the other green guys in garbage rides that showed up finally.

Long time ago when the Yak3 first came out I killed a muppet with a storch which PO'd him beyond belief. It cost me my storch but, I HO'd him with my rear end on purpose so I could shoot him in the face and watch his plane burn all the way to the ground. He blew up just as I hit the ground and received the kill credit. That is the essence of what POTW squad members are and why we just keep having fun with this silly game.
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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2019, 08:44:20 PM »
Are the turn fighters all on the same side?   You can't fight each other?  :headscratch:
9 outa 10 planes will just run away im not spending my time chasing people around the sky because they are scared to lose a cartoon airplane. maybe one day when the runners only have runners to fight they will see how boring it is. I play world of tanks now days and i have ran into atleast 30 former aces high players over there so i guess i aint alone on my thinking.

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Re: Why bother?
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2019, 09:04:17 PM »
9 out of 10 planes run.  call extreme  bs on that.
you left, be gone. have fun in wot


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