Early & Mid-War Plane Sets

[trap78]

Anyone happen to have a list of the plane sets for the old Early and Mid-War main arenas? I used to have screenshots of them from the hanger but lost the files when a hard drive crashed. I'm considering putting up an arena similar to those once in a while. A few players have expressed an interest to me in flying them.

[Arlo]

mid-war                                     early-war
A20G                                         F4F-4                       
                                               
B-17G                                        P-38G
B-24J                                         P-39D
B-25C                                        P-40B
B-26B                                        P-40E
                                                 SBD-5
F4U-1                                        TBM-3
F6F-5                                         
FM-2                                          Boston Mk III
P-38J                                         Hurricane Mk I
P-39Q                                        Hurricane Mk IIC
P-40F                                         Lancaster III
P-47D11                                     Sea Hurricane Mk I
P-51B                                         Spitfire Mk I
Hurricane Mk IID                         Spitfire Mk V
Mosquito VI                                 Spitfire Mk IX
Seafire Mk II                               B-239
Spitfire Mk VIII                           BF-109E4
Typhoon Mk I                              BF-109F4
BF-109G2
BF-109G6
                                                 BF-110C4B
BF-110G2                                   F-156
JU-87G2                                     FW-190A5
C.205                                        HE-111H
A6M5                                         JU-87D3
Ki-43-II                                     JU-88A4
Ki-61                                         C.202
ki-67                                         A6M2
IL-2 type 3                                 A6M3           
LA-5-FN                                     B5M2
TU-2S                                        D3A1
                                                 G4M1
                                                 I-16
                                                 C-47

(I looked up the earliest arena status on most of the planes. Some didn't have such, so it required outside AH resources. Sorry about the formatting.)

[Lusche]

The EW perk planes were Lancaster, P-38G, FW 190A-5, Spit IX

[trap78]

Thanks Arlo; that's just what I was looking for.
Thanks for the info on the early war perked planes Lusche, I believe the Typhoon was the only perked aircraft in Mid-War. Does that sound right?

[Lusche]

Thanks for the info on the early war perked planes Lusche, I believe the Typhoon was the only perked aircraft in Mid-War. Does that sound right?

It's the only one I remember being perked, but I didn't play in MW as much as I did in EW.

[Arlo]

Do you remember the actual perk costs, Lusche?

[Lusche]

Do you remember the actual perk costs, Lusche?

No

[Devil 505]

Spit8 had a small perk price in MW. I think 5.

Quite honestly, you could do better with a custom planeset. No reason for the P-51B to be in MW and the F4U-1 is also a bit too strong.

[Arlo]

I believe it was date oriented and not 'strength' oriented. If it was the latter then there'd be no Lancs in EW.

[Devil 505]

I believe it was date oriented and not 'strength' oriented. If it was the latter then there'd be no Lancs in EW.

Right, that is why I believe his custom arena would benefit from a better balanced plane set.

[trap78]

I forgot about the Spit 8, thanks Devil. Monday Night Madness uses a mid-war plane set, which made me curious as to what HTC used in old MW Main. Monday nights all planes are available to both sides so it's the same approach to balance as the Main. I'm considering an earlier war version of MNM on a different night of the week; again I needed some starting point as to what had been used in the past. With that said, there's always room for tweaking the plane set. Jaeger has become quite good at using things like fog layers, terrain features and icon settings to tone down the advantages of top tier aircraft.

[Arlo]

Here's the entire list of AH toys (Early Arena) (Mid-war Arena) (Late-war Arena) (Unsure):

A-20G
B-17G
B-24J
B-25C
B-25H
B-26B
B-29
C-47A
F4F-4
F4U-1
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
FM2
P-38G
P-38J
P-38L
P-39D
P-39Q
P-40B
P-40E
P-40F
P-40N
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47M
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D
SBD-5
TBM-3
Boston Mk III
Hurricane Mk I
Hurricane Mk IIC
Hurricane Mk IID
Lancaster III
Mosquito Mk VI
Mosquito Mk XVI
Seafire Mk II
Sea Hurricane Mk I
Spitfire Mk I
Spitfire Mk V
Spitfire Mk VIII
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Spitfire Mk XVI
Tempest Mk V
Typhoon Mk I
B-239
Ar 234B
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-14
Bf 109K-4
Bf 110C-4b
Bf 110G-2
Fi 156
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
He 111H
Ju 87D-3
Ju 87G-2
Ju 88A-4
Me 163
Me 262
Me 410
Ta 152H
C.202
C.205   
A6M2
A6M3
A6M5b
B5N2
D3A1
G4M1
Ki-43-II
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67
Ki-84-la
N1K2-J
I-16
Il-2 Type 3
La-5FN
La-7
Tu-2S
Yak-3
Yak-7B
Yak-9T
Yak-9U
Jeep
LVT(A)2
LVT(A)4
M-3
M4A3(75)
M4A3(76)W
M-8
M-16
M-18
Sherman VC
Jagdpanther
Jagdpanzer IV
Jagdpanzer 38
Ostwind
Panther G
Panzer IV
Panzer IV F
SdKfz 251
Tiger I
Tiger 2
Wirbelwind
Elco 80' PT Boat

[Spikes]

I would say the TBM-3 is mid-war, arguably late-war.

[Devil 505]

Arlo, are you sure the Yak-7B and Yak-9T were only in the late war arena?

Both should have been at least been in mid war and the 7B is arguably early war and would be very competitive in the early war arena.

[Arlo]

I would say the TBM-3 is mid-war, arguably late-war.

It's just the arena that HT put it in (probably since there wasn't an earlier version of a U.S. torpedo plane modeled). It could also be that if it was built in `42 or earlier then that was the qualifier and the TBF and TBM weren't that drastically different (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_TBF_Avenger).

Whatever the reason, those or something entirely different, that's where HTC placed them.