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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #135 on: October 30, 2019, 02:35:11 PM »
Can we all agree that ND should be in a conference and that they are indeed overrated?
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #136 on: October 30, 2019, 02:39:35 PM »
By way of comparison, Clemson's strength of schedule in the All Creampuff Conference is #50.

Oklahoma, #49

Oregon, #56

Utah, #53

Baylor, #61

The SEC and Big 10 both are vastly harder conferences.  It's not just the SEC, you SEC partisans.  :aok

This is why Urban Meyer says it is crap how the CFP committee handles strength of schedule.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #137 on: October 30, 2019, 02:57:38 PM »
Can we all agree that ND should be in a conference and that they are indeed overrated?

Compared to what?

Overrated at #10 after they lost by 1 touchdown to Georgia?

Overrated compared to Utah, Baylor, SMU?

Or overrated at #16 only after Michigan clobbered them in a monsoon?

Notre Dame lost to Georgia and Michigan.

Oklahoma (with weak schedule) lost to unranked Kansas State and is still #10.

Utah (with its weak schedule) lost to unranked USC and is still #9.  (Notre Dame beat USC.)

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #138 on: October 30, 2019, 03:37:39 PM »
 ND should join a conference. I doubt they ever will because it would make their schedule much more difficult.
 
I also think the SEC should start playing the Pac 12 teams on a regular basis. Pac 12 teams are always over rated 
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #139 on: October 30, 2019, 04:42:39 PM »
"Dear @NDFootball, we need to take a break. We’ve been doing this for a while now and we need our space. We’re glad we could end on good terms, thank you for not being defensive. Let’s keep in touch and maybe we’ll try again in 14 years if you’re still independent. 👋

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #140 on: October 31, 2019, 10:06:47 AM »
ND gets their bellybutton handed to them every year if they make it to the playoffs lol
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #141 on: October 31, 2019, 02:04:02 PM »
ND gets their bellybutton handed to them every year if they make it to the playoffs lol

True.  When I used to do a confidence pool for bowl games, max points on ND to lose was always the first thing I wrote down. Because they're overrated they get a terrible matchup for them just about every year. I don't even think its good for ND as a program to be always so overrated as they are, losing bowl games isn't good for the health of your program, although getting the bowl game payout is :/ .
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #142 on: October 31, 2019, 02:05:20 PM »
As far as joining a conference, ND won't as long as they have their own television contract.  Blame NBC.
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #143 on: October 31, 2019, 02:17:32 PM »
ND gets their bellybutton handed to them every year if they make it to the playoffs lol

They got stomped, but it's not just them.  The team getting stomped is (other than 2015) usually any team playing Clemson or Alabama.

2015:  Oregon stomped FSU; Ohio State stomped Oregon.  <--- the outlier
2016:  Clemson stomped Oklahoma; Alabama stomped Michigan State.
2017:  Clemson stomped Ohio State; Alabama stomped Washington.
2018:  Alabama stomped Clemson.
2019:  Clemson stomped Notre Dame; Clemson stomped Alabama.

But yes, rankings are not the best measure of how good a team is because rankings are based mainly on record and not much on anything else (such as strength of schedule, "eye test", etc.) regardless what the CFP committee says.  Things other than record matter mainly when two teams have the same record, and the other things are used as a tie breaker.

I'd like a rankings system based on more than record -- some sort of Elo system or math-based system that significantly takes into account opponents and game scores.

That's what SP+ and FPI do, but they are complicated models.

I'm sure there's something simpler that would get us most of the way there and be a great improvement over ranking based nearly only on record.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #144 on: November 02, 2019, 12:55:35 PM »
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #145 on: November 02, 2019, 10:01:29 PM »
"World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party"


It would be more great if they played some Rush.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #146 on: November 04, 2019, 09:09:16 AM »
It would be more great if they played some Rush.

Disappointing loss, but not too surprising.  Until we get some more beef up front we're not going to be a playoff contender.  Unfortunately, we don't have the bagmen Bama does to help stockpile those players.     

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #147 on: November 04, 2019, 09:25:00 AM »

I think this was bought and paid for by Mano.  Couldn't talk him into the Tesla, huh?

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #148 on: November 05, 2019, 12:13:02 AM »
Bagmen are a conspiracy theory.  Those players got that cash and those cars as birthday presents from Grandma.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #149 on: November 06, 2019, 07:14:57 AM »
LSU got the shaft in the CFP poll. Hopefully they will factor SoS next year. Who knows.
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