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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #675 on: September 18, 2020, 12:21:06 PM »
would you work for a company that pays your school but you get no money yourself if they tell you only a couple of you will have life changing problems for the rest of your life?

easy to say it ain't so bad when it doesn't affect you.


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Anyone who doesn't want to play keeps his eligibility and scholarship.  They have the freedom to not play.

I think it is good also to have freedom to play for those who want to play.  They should have ability to determine make decisions as they feel best for themselves, not be precluded from that.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #676 on: September 18, 2020, 12:22:46 PM »
Each player can make his own choice.

Sorry, football is a team and not an individual sport.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #677 on: September 18, 2020, 12:32:35 PM »
Sorry, football is a team and not an individual sport.

Yes... but they are allowing those that are not really team players to take a hike if they so wish.

I believe they should lose their scholarship too  if they do not do their part for it.
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #678 on: September 18, 2020, 12:34:00 PM »
But football is important and is worth the health risk during a pandemic says the fan desiring to be entertained.

I think that players should be able both to opt out and opt in, whatever they feel is best for their own situations as they see it.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #679 on: September 18, 2020, 12:36:03 PM »
Sorry, football is a team and not an individual sport.

Which you can choose to join or not, and to play or not.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #680 on: September 18, 2020, 12:47:55 PM »
Which you can choose to join or not, and to play or not.

I'm pretty sure that back when I played (high school football) that half the team couldn't practically play without the other half nor could we just plug in random student bodies from the student body. This is why decisions of this nature aren't individual.
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #681 on: September 18, 2020, 01:18:32 PM »
I'm pretty sure that back when

I think that it is best for football to be able to have games, and allow players to opt in or out as they see fit for their own situations.

I think it is better than disallowing football games, and thus players have no ability to play even if they want to do that.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #682 on: September 18, 2020, 01:45:39 PM »
I think that it is best for football to be able to have games, and allow players to opt in or out as they see fit for their own situations.

I think it is better than disallowing football games, and thus players have no ability to play even if they want to do that.

I've read what you think multiple times and I responded with the hole I saw in your logic. Opting in or out, individually, undermines the cohesiveness and effectiveness of a team. Players don't play football, individually. They may stand out, individually but they don't (and can't) play this sport individually. That, in itself, affects their ability to play ... even if they want to.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #683 on: September 18, 2020, 02:03:53 PM »
I'm pretty sure that back when I played (high school football) that half the team couldn't practically play without the other half nor could we just plug in random student bodies from the student body. This is why decisions of this nature aren't individual.

you can play football or any other sport all by yourself.  you won't be competitive but you can still play.

I played soccer, football and tennis in high school because i had fun. i quit tennis when I was a senior because the coach made it no fun for me.

used to work at an insurance company, we insured the top 5 players in the NBA. not going into details but when you read medical reports that's when you find out what they really think about team play.


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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #684 on: September 18, 2020, 02:08:52 PM »
Seems so, as those are for testing that occurred from June through now, and there is no mention of anything more serious than just a positive test.

Obviously, also, since there have been no football games, those positive tests are not from playing in football games.

You can’t speak with facts, logic, and reason to the coronabros. This mess just shows how much people really are sheep to their tv screens.
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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #685 on: September 18, 2020, 02:11:08 PM »
You can’t speak with facts, logic, and reason to the coronabros. This mess just shows how much people really are sheep to their tv screens.

Generalized attack with political overtones.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #686 on: September 18, 2020, 02:15:28 PM »
You can’t speak with facts, logic, and reason to the coronabros. This mess just shows how much people really are sheep to their tv screens.

actually what he gave was an opinion.


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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #687 on: September 18, 2020, 02:24:34 PM »
The ability for players to opt in or out does indeed reduce a team's authority.  That is just how it is in the US.  Teams do not have the legal authority for force players.

As for logic, here it is in math terms.

A.  If teams are allowed to play, then players can choose to play or not play.

B.  If teams are not allowed to play, players have no choice and cannot play.

I prefer A.

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #688 on: September 18, 2020, 02:30:05 PM »
As for logic, here it is in math terms.

A.  If teams are allowed to play, then players can choose to play or not play.

B.  If teams are not allowed to play, players have no choice and cannot play.

I prefer A.

Your preference is well noted. Granted, it's not a fan vote (nor should it be).

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Re: College football 2019
« Reply #689 on: September 18, 2020, 02:30:43 PM »
The ability for players to opt in or out does indeed reduce a team's authority.  That is just how it is in the US.  Teams do not have the legal authority for force players.

As for logic, here it is in math terms.

A.  If teams are allowed to play, then players can choose to play or not play.

B.  If teams are not allowed to play, players have no choice and cannot play.

I prefer A.

well in that case logic dictates based on you prefer A, that your opinion is based on the fact that you want to watch football and all other choices are irrelevant.

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