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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2019, 10:00:09 AM »
2600s but I forget the dash number.    Maybe it will come to me.

If I can help, I believe it was the Wright R-2600-92.

My only radial time was R2800s on Convair 440s but that was 40 years ago.

Does anyone know from their knowledge of the accident airplane, was it still running the Wright 1830s or was it converted to the P&Ws?
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2019, 12:41:44 PM »
If I can help, I believe it was the Wright R-2600-92.

My only radial time was R2800s on Convair 440s but that was 40 years ago.

Does anyone know from their knowledge of the accident airplane, was it still running the Wright 1830s or was it converted to the P&Ws?

Yes, that's it.  It was/is technically a B-25J-30-NC but it was/is masquerading as a Marine  PBJ.  The good old days.   
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2019, 12:47:25 PM »
If I can help, I believe it was the Wright R-2600-92.

My only radial time was R2800s on Convair 440s but that was 40 years ago.

Does anyone know from their knowledge of the accident airplane, was it still running the Wright 1830s or was it converted to the P&Ws?

Their website says Wright R-1820-97.
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2019, 02:48:30 PM »
THIS Was a VERY VERY SAD WAY TO START A GORGEOUS MORNING IN MY HOME!!!! Granted this now this is old news but the news is still showing films of the burning and smoking wreck!! And to add to the sorrows for me this crash happened in basically my back yard because  I live only several minutes from Bradley Airport. Yes I did and Im sure thousands of others bystanders have said prayers and wished that the seven who died are saved and their families are also blessed by our King Jesus Christ!

very very sad And to add to our sorrows of this loss this is far more than just a game this is the real deal and loss of actual life's. People truly really died and have paid the ultimate price for us all to watch these big old gorgeous bombers fly by grazing us all...
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2019, 02:51:04 PM »
Such a terrible tragedy! My heart goes out to everyone involved.

Rumor out there that the plane could have been fueled with jet fuel.

What do y'all think about that?
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2019, 07:07:18 PM »
Accidents happen. The airplanes are old and humans always make mistakes. Every warbird that is flying and continues to fly will eventually crash. I am ok with that. There are plenty of models, photos, and museum birds. The planes were built to fly. I say fly them until they die so as many people as possible can hear the sound of their engines and get a glimpse into the greatness of aviation history. I am the same way with cars. To me, it is a crime to keep airplanes and cars locked away as hangar/garage queens when they could be in the air or on the road doing what they were built to do and allowing future generations to get a first hand glimpse at an amazing past!
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2019, 09:14:06 PM »
Such a terrible tragedy! My heart goes out to everyone involved.

Rumor out there that the plane could have been fueled with jet fuel.

What do y'all think about that?

I think I'd like to wait to hear what the NTSB concludes.
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2019, 09:34:24 PM »
Accidents happen. The airplanes are old and humans always make mistakes. Every warbird that is flying and continues to fly will eventually crash. I am ok with that. There are plenty of models, photos, and museum birds. The planes were built to fly. I say fly them until they die so as many people as possible can hear the sound of their engines and get a glimpse into the greatness of aviation history. I am the same way with cars. To me, it is a crime to keep airplanes and cars locked away as hangar/garage queens when they could be in the air or on the road doing what they were built to do and allowing future generations to get a first hand glimpse at an amazing past!


Agreed.  But still kind of sad.

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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2019, 09:46:53 PM »
Such a terrible tragedy! My heart goes out to everyone involved.

Rumor out there that the plane could have been fueled with jet fuel.

What do y'all think about that?

I would think the crew, specifically the crew chief, would supervise and do the actual fueling.  It’s hard to believe they would allow a jet fuel truck to pull up and not notice.  Or, could a 100LL truck have been filled with jet fuel?  Both things are an enormous stretch.  The NTSB investigation results can’t come too soon.



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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2019, 11:02:35 PM »
Always sad to see fatalities.  In this case, also a blow to the Collings Foundation and it's national tours of giving rides in such planes.

I took a couple rides on their B-24 and one on their B-25, and have toured inside the B-17 several times, but not a ride on it.  I count them as some of my most-treasured experiences.

Several players here have taken rides on that B-17.

Also, Columbo, former player here who passed away recently, was the pilot of the Collings B-17 for a while in his life.

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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2019, 09:05:21 AM »
Always sad to see fatalities.  In this case, also a blow to the Collings Foundation and it's national tours of giving rides in such planes.

I took a couple rides on their B-24 and one on their B-25, and have toured inside the B-17 several times, but not a ride on it.  I count them as some of my most-treasured experiences.

Several players here have taken rides on that B-17.

Also, Columbo, former player here who passed away recently, was the pilot of the Collings B-17 for a while in his life.

I think he was primarily a pilot on the B-24. 
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2019, 09:43:13 AM »
I think he was primarily a pilot on the B-24.

He posted mostly about his B 24 exploits.
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2019, 06:39:08 PM »
Per Airliners.net, the B-17 lost engine #3 and then #4 shortly after.  I saw the flight tracker, the plane never got above 125mph (knts?).  Struck multiple lights and an ILS stanchion coming in for a landing, which caused it to crash into the de-icing building.

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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2019, 06:47:37 PM »
He posted mostly about his B 24 exploits.

Yes, he was the B-24 pilot for a number of years.



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