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Offline Zeta

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How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« on: December 16, 2019, 05:58:09 PM »
I love this game. It feels like it's always here for me whenever I have wanted.  I hate the fact that we are hitting numbers under 100. I've thought about the idea of this place having a "ROLLING THUNDER" night the 1st of every month...literally all GV's for 24 hours... and no other forums open....to get people back into GV's. I also thought about allowing foreigners (non Americans) to play for an entire year for FREE...hoping to hook lots of new people.  Perhaps I have no idea at all.....but I do know this can't go on much longer.

I love this game.  Been here since the beginning. Including the old game on AOL.  I want this to thrive again....and it's killin' me.  Every single cat on this game is a brother to me....and that's not the Jameson talking.

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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2019, 06:10:18 PM »
I love this game, too.   It has caused me both intense frustration and endless fun.    It’s one of those challenges that I relish. 
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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2019, 06:53:05 PM »
My rant, last 3 encounters 1 ping radiators(850yds+)...fighting 1, 4 more drop in= no fun...I'll wait for the weekend if there's more on.

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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2019, 06:58:03 PM »
My rant, last 3 encounters 1 ping radiators(850yds+)...fighting 1, 4 more drop in= no fun...I'll wait for the weekend if there's more on.


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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2019, 10:46:43 PM »
I would literally pay for something to help bring more people to this game. I love this game!!
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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2019, 10:49:39 PM »
After going back to school and just graduating again I’m going to have my weekends back to spread F4U parts across the AH oceans. No other flight game replicates or does it better.
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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2019, 11:09:43 PM »
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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2019, 01:19:59 AM »
anybody noticed we had over 200 players loggin in last friday during fso?  they were split between fso and ma.  yeah I know back in the day we had a billion.


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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2019, 09:06:00 AM »
anybody noticed we had over 200 players loggin in last friday during fso?  they were split between fso and ma.  yeah I know back in the day we had a billion.


That tells me there is a large percentage of Hitech's customers that no longer bother with the 3-sided Melee and only show up for 2-sided FSO and Scenarios.

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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2019, 09:07:37 AM »

That tells me there is a large percentage of Hitech's customers that no longer bother with the 3-sided Melee and only show up for 2-sided FSO and Scenarios.

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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2019, 09:20:42 AM »

That tells me there is a large percentage of Hitech's customers that no longer bother with the 3-sided Melee and only show up for 2-sided FSO and Scenarios.

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Meh, that's 2 completely different situations and set up.

Now, try marketing the FSO and special events outside of the game and other places than the forums, then you might have a chance. There is virtually no marketing for these events and I'm sure very few new players see them in the forums.

There is just no, or very little enthusiasm outside of the game. There is no scoring competitions. Hardly anyone has ever heard of AH.

The game is too hard or time consuming for most people. That's really the issue. Then make them pay for a subscription every month after barely learning the game, that's another big issue.

You have to really LOVE AH and really want to be successful in it, or it's just very tough to get in to it and pay the money every month. I don't know why so many haven't returned back. The game is hardly any different than it was in 2007..

I've actually seen the #s tick up a bit this winter. Still, I feel like there isn't a big enough team in AH for new maps and planes and additions to the game to come out on a timely basis.

No news or special events updates on the front page along with the same video from 3 years ago doesn't make the game seem like it's being promoted very well. The front page looks very stale.

Where is the hype?


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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2019, 11:34:05 AM »
Meh, that's 2 completely different situations and set up.

Thanks CptObvious.  ;)  One is 3-sided, one is 2-sided.  One is curated, one is not.  I've talked to several people in the Scenarios that said they never bother playing the Melee.  If they go in there at all, it is just to quickly check  their convergence for the plane they are going to be flying in the Scenario.

Now, try marketing the FSO and special events outside of the game and other places than the forums, then you might have a chance. There is virtually no marketing for these events and I'm sure very few new players see them in the forums.

Agreed.  I'm wondering if events are really the better stealth product.  It's pretty much marketed now as subscribe to our Melee, oh and there are some Scenarios on the side occasionally as well.
Maybe flip the script and focus and really super charge and expand the Scenario capabilities and market AH as:

"Sign up for duty and participate in monthly historical re-enactments of the WWII air war!  Relive History. Change History!   Oh, and we have a silly 3-chess piece Melee arena where you can go practice in between the main events."  :D

I've also said before  (and was attacked),  I think there should be event tickets.  I'd like to try to draw in IL2 and DCS and WB and WWIIOL pilots in to participate in a event. Yes, they can open a subscription and then close it again, but most people won't do that.  They don't know Hitech.  The will assume that they will get screwed and charged an extra month, even though HTC makes it very easy to cancel. Asking someone to open an ongoing subscription is just psychologically a big ask. 

I've actually seen the #s tick up a bit this winter. Still, I feel like there isn't a big enough team in AH for new maps and planes and additions to the game to come out on a timely basis.

But don't the numbers always trend up in winter when people are house-bound and then decline again once it warms up?  It's just that year after year, it never trends up quite as high as the last year, and drops back down a little lower than the year before.
 
No news or special events updates on the front page along with the same video from 3 years ago doesn't make the game seem like it's being promoted very well. The front page looks very stale.

Where is the hype?

It was suggested that a Social Media Team be formed to produce regular content to hosted by HTC's official channels and web page (with Hitech's review of course).  There are lots of talented people in this community and I think I've seen some people volunteer to help with that.  It would be more powerful for new content to pushed through HTC's media and web channels so the company doesn't look like a mothballed dead museum. I understand HTC has extremely limit bandwidth and resources .  I'm suggesting HTC should to help us, help them.

I don't know if anything like that is underway and just stealth. 

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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2019, 11:56:39 AM »
Thanks CptObvious.  ;)  One is 3-sided, one is 2-sided.  One is curated, one is not.  I've talked to several people in the Scenarios that said they never bother playing the Melee.  If they go in there at all, it is just to quickly check  their convergence for the plane they are going to be flying in the Scenario.

Agreed.  I'm wondering if events are really the better stealth product.  It's pretty much marketed now as subscribe to our Melee, oh and there are some Scenarios on the side occasionally as well.
Maybe flip the script and focus and really super charge and expand the Scenario capabilities and market AH as:

"Sign up for duty and participate in monthly historical re-enactments of the WWII air war!  Relive History. Change History!   Oh, and we have a silly 3-chess piece Melee arena where you can go practice in between the main events."  :D

I've also said before  (and was attacked),  I think there should be event tickets.  I'd like to try to draw in IL2 and DCS and WB and WWIIOL pilots in to participate in a event. Yes, they can open a subscription and then close it again, but most people won't do that.  They don't know Hitech.  The will assume that they will get screwed and charged an extra month, even though HTC makes it very easy to cancel. Asking someone to open an ongoing subscription is just psychologically a big ask. 

But don't the numbers always trend up in winter when people are house-bound and then decline again once it warms up?  It's just that year after year, it never trends up quite as high as the last year, and drops back down a little lower than the year before.
 
It was suggested that a Social Media Team be formed to produce regular content to hosted by HTC's official channels and web page (with Hitech's review of course).  There are lots of talented people in this community and I think I've seen some people volunteer to help with that.  It would be more powerful for new content to pushed through HTC's media and web channels so the company doesn't look like a mothballed dead museum. I understand HTC has extremely limit bandwidth and resources .  I'm suggesting HTC should to help us, help them.

I don't know if anything like that is underway and just stealth. 

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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2019, 12:17:46 PM »
<SNIP> There is no scoring competitions. <SNIP>

Just for craps and laughter, where does KOTH fit into this statement?

I hear and read people saying where's the fight? The Special Event that packs most dog-fighting/hour of any event we have barely gets enough players to even run it.
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Re: How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2019, 12:24:58 PM »
But don't the numbers always trend up in winter when people are house-bound and then decline again once it warms up?  It's just that year after year, it never trends up quite as high as the last year, and drops back down a little lower than the year before.

Yes, it's exactly like that.
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