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Offline Vraciu

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Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« on: December 22, 2019, 05:20:28 PM »
Is the windscreen framing blue in this picture?   

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2019, 06:01:30 PM »
Huh..what?  Is there a windscreen in that picture? Oh yeah...there it is...not sure about the windscreen color but I can picture Virginia Maries top being a baby blue.   :lol

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2019, 07:34:55 PM »
Huh..what?  Is there a windscreen in that picture? Oh yeah...there it is...not sure about the windscreen color but I can picture Virginia Maries top being a baby blue.   :lol

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2019, 08:02:48 PM »
All of the actual photos of the plane I can find are in black and white and the angle is wrong.  I did find several photos of plastic model box cover art of this plane. In those the bottom front of the windscreen is the same medium metallic blue as the rest of the blue on the plane. (Virginia Maries bikini is the same metallic blue.)  The same is true for photos of a Franklin Mint collectible of the plane.  I know this is not actual photo evidence of the color scheme that you are looking for the actual plane but it is all I have found so far.   :headscratch:

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2019, 09:02:35 PM »
There is only two pictures I have found showing the blue nose and so forth both are in Greebo’s Mama’s boy thread. One shows the Margaret name and the other shows the all blue sun glare panel. All the other photos i have found you have now  and all are prior to painting blue like the one in this thread. I am overseas at the moment so I limited to helping you at present.

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2019, 09:35:29 PM »
Thanks fellas, no worries.  I'm going with the blue for now.   Gawd, the canopy frames in this Specular Map are a nightmare.  Took me several hours to find the frames and then some pixels apply in three spots--one of them entirely wrong.

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2019, 12:05:37 AM »
Here's a sneak peek...   







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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2019, 02:17:57 AM »
Thanks fellas, no worries.  I'm going with the blue for now.   Gawd, the canopy frames in this [DIFFUSE] Map are a nightmare.  Took me several hours to find the frames and then some pixels apply in three spots--one of them entirely wrong.

DIFFUSE Map.   :bhead
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2019, 03:07:18 AM »
Here's a sneak peek...   



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See page 2 of mamas boy you don't have the correct shape that is blue on glare panel.

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2019, 06:30:09 AM »
Here's a sneak peek...   

Looking really good Vraciu, AH's P-38 pilots must think its Christmas come early.....

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2019, 07:46:31 AM »

See page 2 of mamas boy you don't have the correct shape that is blue on glare panel.

Thanks for the correction.  It should be a straight line, right?

The nose is the hardest part of this airplane with all the stretching.   Drives me crazy.    :bhead

I also posted the same image twice by mistake.    :bhead :bhead
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2019, 07:49:51 AM »
Looking really good Vraciu, AH's P-38 pilots must think its Christmas come early.....

Thanks, G.  Still a long way to go, but it will get there.   Your tutorial was a great motivator--and a big help.

Lots of things left to do on it.  I learned some tough lessons making Mustangs that I (so far) haven't repeated.  Your layer organization tips, particularly with panel lines, are PURE gold.

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2019, 08:17:11 AM »
great job so far.
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2019, 08:30:34 AM »
great job so far.

Thanks.   You were right about trying something new.   Lessons learned carried over and it has really helped my skill set to tackle a different shape.   :cheers:
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2019, 01:32:31 PM »
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