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Emperor Commodus
« on: February 05, 2020, 06:05:44 PM »
Today, for some reason, I cannot help but think about the Emperor Commodus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodus

There were other emperors after him, but many see him as the last and the start of the death of Rome.
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2020, 06:39:50 PM »
I just sat on the Throne of Commodus, left a deposit! :D

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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2020, 08:00:46 PM »
Netflix has a docu series on Roman Emperors.  Commodus is the focus on season 3 I believe.  Much more informative then Gladiator. 
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2020, 08:22:11 PM »
Today, for some reason, I cannot help but think about the Emperor Commodus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodus

There were other emperors after him, but many see him as the last and the start of the death of Rome.

Too deep for most I suspect SysError.
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2020, 09:06:28 PM »
Too deep for most I suspect SysError.


Or too shallow.  Analogies abound from both perspectives.

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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2020, 05:34:43 AM »
I find Craptology interesting. In fact I have a BS in Craptology.
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2020, 02:41:05 PM »
Today, for some reason, I cannot help but think about the Emperor Commodus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodus

There were other emperors after him, but many see him as the last and the start of the death of Rome.

I agree Sys. Commodus was a megalomaniac with very little, if any, empathy for his people. He also really struggled with temper and had no sense of compromise. Lucky for Rome, this man was never placed in charge of massive military operations. Toward the end of his reign, he really began to lose it having named all of the months after himself. Sadly for Rome, his death marked the beginning of the Year of the Five Emperors, which was no less chaotic than any other year of Comodus's reign.
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2020, 03:31:29 PM »
It's been said that among the Roman traditions.  Having a long nose, an individual would be seen as having great intellect and power.

Us 21st Century people filled with great historical information, all we need are 3 things.

1) Set an appointment with a plastic surgeon and schedule extending the nose and increasing the width.  (easiest to do, just need cash)
2) Have a portable googol translator to street Latin. (possible but need a way for future battery charging)
3) Time displacement device ex.. DeLorean with flux capacitor, blue telephone booth, portal (hardest thing to acquire)

Once all 3 things have been accomplished, showing up thousands of years ago armed with the flame stick to ignite charcoal grilling, heavy duty flashlight, shotg.. boom stick, and last but not least a portable Walkman with headphones.  You would definetily claim the Emperor's throne.
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2020, 08:50:56 PM »
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2020, 07:53:20 AM »
I have studied some Roman history, but Commodus and the later Emperors never interested me.. By that time the empire was already a walking corpse, propelled by it's own inertia..
A catalogue of Corruption and Depravity, existing on the Glory of their Ancestors..

I always found the Republic, far more interesting.. First and second Punic wars, Hannibal vs Scipio, Cannae, and Zama.. The Roman civil wars, Caesar's conquests and assassination, the triumvirate, Actium..

 
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2020, 09:24:37 AM »
I have studied some Roman history, but Commodus and the later Emperors never interested me.. By that time the empire was already a walking corpse, propelled by it's own inertia..
A catalogue of Corruption and Depravity, existing on the Glory of their Ancestors..

I always found the Republic, far more interesting.. First and second Punic wars, Hannibal vs Scipio, Cannae, and Zama.. The Roman civil wars, Caesar's conquests and assassination, the triumvirate, Actium..

 

I feel the same way about Ancient Egypt... for myself, Egypt was not the same after it was conquered by
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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2020, 10:22:05 AM »
i read a book back in the 70s that proposed the idea that the fall of the Roman empire was due to their pots and pans were lined with lead.  think it makes sense considering how the ceasars acted towards the end.


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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2020, 10:39:12 AM »
Many authors such as Goldsworthy, Gibben, Heather, and a long list of others, claim that two of the major factors leading to the fall of the Western Roman empire were too many foreigners/slaves allowed into the workforce, as well as the legions.  If we're going to talk about "deep" subjects, and make comparisons about Rome and today's issues.

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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2020, 11:33:39 AM »
Many authors such as Goldsworthy, Gibben, Heather, and a long list of others, claim that two of the major factors leading to the fall of the Western Roman empire were too many foreigners/slaves allowed into the workforce, as well as the legions.  If we're going to talk about "deep" subjects, and make comparisons about Rome and today's issues.

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Re: Emperor Commodus
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2020, 11:43:59 AM »
I am going to cherry pick your post here Tundra, forgive me. Gibbon, in my opinion, is not a credible source any longer for the decline in particular, anyway. I find his first five volumes to be very comprehensive and an accurate study of the sociopolitical status of Rome throughout its history. However, his ending thesis regarding Vandal invasion is wrong, in my opinion. He attributed it to a loss of morality, which stemmed from their straying from Catholic faith. This was clear and uncut propaganda from Gibbon, an unfortunate inclusion in such a masterful piece of scholarship. His faith obstructed his objective, academic conclusion. Please do remember, that this work was finished and published during the most tumultuous time in human thought: the Enlightenment. Gibbon's work served as a counter to many philosophes' works such as Voltaire's Spirit of Nations and Treatise on Tolerance. There was as much allegorical work as there was historical, which is why we must be cautious when using Gibbon's work in academic settings regarding the fall of Rome as an idea. While I believe that Gibbon's monstrosity of a work is a very important piece of understanding Rome and its historiography, I cannot possibly use his final thesis as fact. We can use it, of course, as a great foundation and as a particular lens or viewpoint. But, I would be apprehensive about siding with him or even using his morality question as a basis of reason when determining the cause of the fall itself.

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