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Re: Weather
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2020, 02:43:15 AM »
Thanks for the shout ok mr brooke! That was an intense scenario, but a bunch of fun! Weather would be a cool addition to this game. Clouds do make it almost feel real <S>

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Re: Weather
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2020, 02:45:38 AM »
Too bad weather (clouds) seem to he the single biggest frame rate killer!

The clouds types I use in scenarios don't seem to give frame-rate hits.

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Re: Weather
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2020, 11:50:09 PM »
adding weather to the game would put a bigger drain on video cards
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Re: Weather
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2020, 01:09:45 AM »
adding weather to the game would put a bigger drain on video cards

I get about the same frame rate with or without clouds.

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Re: Weather
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2020, 01:27:50 AM »
If I recall correctly Fighter Ace had weather.  I distinctly remember flying through rain.  Snow covered maps as well.

Or I may just be getting old and not remembering properly.

I am now playing WOWS since the fights in here became so poor and they have lightning storms.  Lol I sometimes forget to look for the enemy because I am enjoying the weather show!

It didn't have weather just the annoying cloud map that was partly responsible for worsening the player numbers.

What is WOWS   and does it have aircraft?   

If it doesn't have aircraft then what on earth are you doing playing that when you could try DCS or IL2?    :headscratch:

if you want a lightning storm DCS has that and it is freaking scary, so no servers put it on and then you realise having no weather is the only sensible option for online play.    :airplane:
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Re: Weather
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2020, 01:52:49 AM »
It didn't have weather just the annoying cloud map that was partly responsible for worsening the player numbers.

What is WOWS   and does it have aircraft?   

If it doesn't have aircraft then what on earth are you doing playing that when you could try DCS or IL2?    :headscratch:

if you want a lightning storm DCS has that and it is freaking scary, so no servers put it on and then you realise having no weather is the only sensible option for online play.    :airplane:

WOWS = World of Warships

I have both DCS and IL2 but have never found a server with decent numbers in my time zone.  Just got Half Life Alyx - the VR one so messing with that.

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Re: Weather
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2020, 05:44:07 AM »
I get about the same frame rate with or without clouds.

Lucky you. I drop from about 60 to around 12-13.
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Re: Weather
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2020, 12:20:55 PM »
Lucky you. I drop from about 60 to around 12-13.

Can you do an experiment?

If you go into AH "choose terrain", choose the germanyw terrain, and download it.

Then take this cloud file:
http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/ahScenarioGuild/cloudDesigns/med15klight5k.awa

Store it in this folder:
C:\Hitech Creations\Aces High III\chconfig\germanyw

Go into AH, choose terrain of germanyw, and go into offline practice.

Check frame rate of flying around with no clouds.

Now, open text radio buffer and type in:
.ulweath med15klight5k.awa
.sweath med15klight5k

Check frame rate of flying around with clouds.

Can you let me know the two frame rates (with clouds and without clouds) as well as graphics card model, and what AH graphics detail you have set, especially the "Environment Map" slider -- is that slider at "none"?

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Re: Weather
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2020, 07:13:06 PM »
Can you do an experiment?

If you go into AH "choose terrain", choose the germanyw terrain, and download it.

Then take this cloud file:
http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/ahScenarioGuild/cloudDesigns/med15klight5k.awa

Store it in this folder:
C:\Hitech Creations\Aces High III\chconfig\germanyw

Go into AH, choose terrain of germanyw, and go into offline practice.

Check frame rate of flying around with no clouds.

Now, open text radio buffer and type in:
.ulweath med15klight5k.awa
.sweath med15klight5k

Check frame rate of flying around with clouds.

Can you let me know the two frame rates (with clouds and without clouds) as well as graphics card model, and what AH graphics detail you have set, especially the "Environment Map" slider -- is that slider at "none"?

Unable to download the file. When I click on it, it opens the file and unsure how to save it.
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Re: Weather
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2020, 07:47:53 PM »
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Re: Weather
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2020, 05:48:47 AM »
Can you do an experiment?

If you go into AH "choose terrain", choose the germanyw terrain, and download it.

Then take this cloud file:
http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/ahScenarioGuild/cloudDesigns/med15klight5k.awa

Store it in this folder:
C:\Hitech Creations\Aces High III\chconfig\germanyw

Go into AH, choose terrain of germanyw, and go into offline practice.

Check frame rate of flying around with no clouds.

Now, open text radio buffer and type in:
.ulweath med15klight5k.awa
.sweath med15klight5k

Check frame rate of flying around with clouds.

Can you let me know the two frame rates (with clouds and without clouds) as well as graphics card model, and what AH graphics detail you have set, especially the "Environment Map" slider -- is that slider at "none"?

Here is what I found.

In flight without clouds is 53-57 fps.
With clouds gets me 35-43 with a drop to about 15 when I get into the clouds.

Running Nvidia GeForce GT740 and yes, I know I need an upgrade soon.

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Re: Weather
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2020, 10:37:13 AM »
Here is what I found.

In flight without clouds is 53-57 fps.
With clouds gets me 35-43 with a drop to about 15 when I get into the clouds.

Running Nvidia GeForce GT740 and yes, I know I need an upgrade soon.

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Set environmental map to 0. That's likely killing the crap out of your performance.

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Re: Weather
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2020, 11:19:21 AM »
Yep.  I think a GeForce 740 should be good enough.

Make sure "environment map" slider is at 0.  Disable reflection.

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Re: Weather
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2020, 01:11:13 PM »
GeForce 740 is 7 years old. In gaming, that's really old.

Aces High does demand a decent video card. The good news, Hitech does allow you to tweak your graphical settings to account for older PC's.

IMHO, we should at least be running 900 series graphic cards, or 970GTX if you want to experience VR.
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Re: Weather
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2020, 01:15:19 PM »
Yeah when AH3 came along the game became more video card-centric than earlier versions. Not that a better GPU didn't help before but it's a lot more of a priority now.
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