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Offline Mister Fork

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2020, 02:45:34 PM »
Ok, Howard D Hively flew the P-47 before he flew the 51. It's possible that the 47 Deacon image is the same one on his 51? Above is Howard and he did fly "The Deacon" P-51D. Since we cannot make out the graphic, it's possible it's the same on he had on his 47.

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2020, 03:03:39 PM »
Quote from: Mister Fork on August 11, 2020, 02:43:54 PM
Who flew The Deacon? Here it is in a P-47 - same pilot?

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Howard "Deacon" Hively, 4th FG ace, ETO.

It's a different "Deacon" for sure.   But it could still be a related theme possibly...
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2020, 03:05:37 PM »
Quote from: lyric1 on August 11, 2020, 01:42:08 PM
What strikes me as weird is the single black and white image is clearly from the colour film. Yet none of the colour footage is as clean as the black & white single frame.

Yeah, but the color throws my eyes into a completely different thought process.

Could they have filmed it in B&W *AND* color?
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2020, 11:50:39 PM »
Quote from: Vraciu on August 11, 2020, 03:05:37 PM
Yeah, but the color throws my eyes into a completely different thought process.

Could they have filmed it in B&W *AND* color?

Doubt it.
Have to wonder though if some one has used a computer to help clean up the film the critical past video is so dark compared to Youtube's version.
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2020, 02:57:39 PM »
V - do we have the tail number of the plane?
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2020, 03:05:47 PM »
Quote from: Mister Fork on August 12, 2020, 02:57:39 PM
V - do we have the tail number of the plane?

Yes.  Standby. 
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2020, 03:08:07 PM »
44-63985





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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2020, 11:10:02 AM »
Thanks V. Got some books to check now.
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2020, 11:14:08 AM »
63403 (47th FS, 15th FG, 7th AF) collided in midair with P-51D 44-63985 and crashed 10 mi off Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima in Pacific Ocean Jul 27, 1945.   Pilot killed.

63985 (531st FS, 21st FG) collided in midair with P-51D 44-63403) and crashed 8 mi NW of Iwo Jima Jul 27, 1945. Pilot was killed, aircraft lost.

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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2020, 11:16:57 AM »
Yikes.

Thanks for your continued help.   :salute
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2020, 12:47:55 AM »
Just watched a rerun of BLACK SHEEP SQUADRON and this footage appears in the episode THE HAWK FLIES ON SUNDAY toward the last ten minutes.

I may dig out my DVD set and see if the footage is better than H&I aired.  It showed more color than the stuff posted here so far.
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2020, 03:47:37 PM »
Best I could do
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2020, 04:14:25 PM »
Quote from: Waltz41 on August 14, 2020, 03:47:37 PM
Best I could do


Certainly the best colour version i have seen.
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2020, 04:57:07 PM »
We're getting closer.

That's better than I could do with my phone and the television.  Lol.
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Re: Research Assistance Requested - P-51D "The Deacon" - 21st FG (Iwo Jima)
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2020, 11:56:50 PM »
Quote from: Vraciu on August 14, 2020, 04:57:07 PM
We're getting closer.

That's better than I could do with my phone and the television.  Lol.

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