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Offline Zambelli

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Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« on: July 07, 2020, 07:59:54 PM »
Help,  plane rolls left when I pull back on stick.  This happens when going up or pulling back when trying to bank turn.  Ever had this problem until very recently.  Squaddies went through scaling, putting settings to default by renaming settings folder, turning on and off stall limiter.... Nothing helps.   Please advise.
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2020, 08:12:13 PM »
You should edit for brand, model and age of your stick.
Edit: Also, if you know how to find it, the first page of the stick map file, it's text and can be posted here.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2020, 08:14:29 PM by Easyscor »
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2020, 08:28:13 PM »
X52.  Dont know about the rest of what you said
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2020, 10:12:37 PM »
Try this:

Go to Controls/Map Controllers.   Select your X52 in the dropdown list.  Click on the 'Advanced' box:



Select the X-Axis, and watch the values change as you pull back on the stick, and watch the green lines in the Raw and Scaled boxes on the clipboard slide-out panel.   By pulling back on the stick, you are activating the Y-Axis, so the X-axis values shold remain fairly stable (mine move somewhat).  You can increase Damping with the slider to try to reduce the effects on the X-Axis when you are using the Y-Axis.   The difference between Raw and Scaled shows how much damping is in effect.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2020, 10:18:10 PM »
Sounds like you got some stick spiking going on.
Increase your dead-band.

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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2020, 04:17:04 AM »
Time to do some diagnostics.  Now let's be clear, diagnostics means taking a couple of hours to test stuff, I mean DELIBERATELY test.

  • Is it only when you turn apply left pressure to the stick?
  • Does it happen when you apply soft or hard pressure?
  • Does it happen in EVERY plane or are you learning a new plane?

If the answer is yes to all then you have a problem with the stick input.  You may need to clean the pots / contacts, I am sure there are many resources online to help with that for your particular stick.

If the answer is no then I suspect you are pulling too hard and what you are seeing is a left wing stall.  I suffered from that for years and when I drank it was worse.  It was worse most of the time I played!!

If you are trying to be a hero in a P51 and actually fight rather than just do high speed passes then I am 99% sure you are yanking too hard.  Happened to me all the time in the 51.

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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2020, 07:53:30 PM »
If I remember right, the x52 is a twisty stick, which can be locked so as not to twist. I always had trouble using it with the twisty function enabled.
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2020, 11:59:45 AM »
If I remember right, the x52 is a twisty stick, which can be locked so as not to twist. I always had trouble using it with the twisty function enabled.

right handed people will have a tendency to turn left.  i do the same thing with my stick when going straight up. but once you become aware of it, you will stop.

did the same when i had pedals.


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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2020, 10:32:24 PM »
Thank you all for posting the help here. I believe my Logitech 3D pro (disposable) is in need of changing. Morfiend helped me troubleshoot issues with that stick before and iirc using some damping and deadband was usually necessary. Mine I’m sure needs replacing by now.

What I’m noticing is every plane wants to pitch up quite a lot, much more than I recall in AH2.
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2020, 07:26:10 PM »
I plugged in a different stick and still have same issue. 

Not my flying.  I know how to roll and bank.

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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2020, 08:15:19 PM »
Reinstalled game.... Same issue persists.   
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2020, 08:23:18 PM »
I am not very techy... I am just about at the point unless someone comes to my house and gets it working.... I will have to quit tjis game for good
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2020, 08:33:00 PM »
Did you you pull up the raw scaling screen as stated above? That would tell you if your stick is out of wack or not.

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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2020, 10:54:00 PM »
Yes I did.... It seems fine.
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Re: Plane rolls left when I pull back on stick
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2020, 10:59:06 AM »
OK, try this.

Load the game and select "offline practice"

On the clipboard goto "preferences/flight"

Check the boxes in the second column that say "Pitch ladder" and Control Pos" and click OK to save it.

Jump in a plane, before you take off select "preferences/UI". This will put a box around everything on the screen you can move. Move the Control Pos box to an area you can easily keep an eye on it. Click ok when your done.

Launch and get your speed up and do the moves that are giving you trouble. Using the control position box you should be able to see all stick and rudder movements to help determine what is giving you trouble.



Give it a try and lets us know what you find. You could also film the test and post that here for the guys to check it out and maybe spot something your missing.

Good Luck!